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The Next FCPX Update
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MEDIA M A N A G E M E N T….
Jeezus – if you are able to select each clip individually in the timeline by hand and export it to a new file – then open a new project and recreate your old timeline shot by shot – why can’t this process be automated in the click of a button for the thousand or so edits in my film? Just give me a decent way to media manage — at LEAST something like 7 – but better. That is NOT too much to ask for. And it should not be third party. It should be integrated into what is already there. If I can do it myself one clip at a time – the COMPUTER should be able to do it for me in one click.-DM
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Isn’t this EXACTLY what a snapshot is? I’m confused.
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No, Bill. I think he’s referring to Media Managing a project for archiving or transfer to an online house.
Right now you can consolidate the media for a Project- but unlike in FCP7, there are no options to trim the media (with handles).
For my own part, drive storage has become so cheap that I’m typically not bothered about this. Also, some media formats like RED, I don’t think would allow for trimming.
Still I can certainly imagine circumstances where this would be needed, so I think it would be a good option to provide. And considering the road that development has been going down this past year, specifically the updates in 10.1.2 for consolidation– I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s coming.
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If your media library on your rough cut of your film can be reduced form say 1.5TB of mostly crap footage down to say 200-300 GB -of just what is being used — well then that is quite a difference – and has nothing to do with prices of hard drives. If you have to export say roughly 18-20 or so segments of your film in order to go out to the effects team to do their thing – again – right now my choices are 1. do it one clip at a time and rebuild for them – not ideal — 2. export whole sequences as a single baked in movies – (and lose all of the cuts in the process) – or 3. Buy Clip Exporter 2 – which kinda sorta does this – but that is all that it really does. It doesn’t media manage any audio at all and has limited functions and costs $120 or so.
That is just one practical example – since i am doing that right now on a film — But there are many other reasons to have a fully functional Media Manager that exports your timeline as individual clips with handles of your liking inside FCP X.
-DM
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No, I understand, and as I said I think they’re only one step away from this with a trimmed media option in a conform. Let’s hope it happens.
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One would hope. I can tell you that they updated Logic with some really kickass stuff. And I actually LIKE cutting in X.1. I wouldn’t go so far as to say it was enjoyable…. but it is a much better experience overall than 7 after the 5 day learning curve. It would be a shame for them to not have more forward momentum after they basically reinvented the editing paradigm. I’m a user and a fan.
-DM
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[Marcus Moore] “No, Bill. I think he’s referring to Media Managing a project for archiving or transfer to an online house.
“I still don’t get it.
Archiving is a snap with X no matter how complex your cut. Because it’s ALL metadata. If you learn to work with referenced media – everything from a snapshot to an XML export is a snap.
As to transfer to an online house, Mike Matzdorff never said it was any kind of issue on Focus when he was working with Lightiron in LA.
If they can do it so easily, why is it a big problem for everyone else? Is this another case of people think they need to stick to exactly the same workflow they’ve been using for 10 years and not willing to re-think things?
Seems to me that those who don’t have that mindset never have that big a problem with X.
Honestly, “media with handles” sounds like what I was doing back when my largest hard drive was 500 megs. Not something particularly relevant in a world where I can carry 4TB in a drive the size of a paperback book – AND I have a tool like X where since everything is built in metadata references and there’s no penalty of working across differently razzed sizes of matched media pools – I can cut in one rez and just switch the pointers to original media with a click.
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[Bill Davis] “Honestly, “media with handles” sounds like what I was doing back when my largest hard drive was 500 megs. Not something particularly relevant in a world where I can carry 4TB in a drive the size of a paperback book”
What if you need to back up to LTO tapes, the best current archiving medium, but one that is both much slower and more limited in size than your 4TB hard drives?
Herb Sevush
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[Bill Davis] “As to transfer to an online house, Mike Matzdorff never said it was any kind of issue on Focus when he was working with Lightiron in LA.”
[Bill Davis] “f they can do it so easily, why is it a big problem for everyone else? “
Welp, one person with an NDA and direct contact with the team at Apple didn’t complain while doing a big-budget feature. We must all be doing something wrong. We have 200 TB on an XSAN, and LTO tape backup but space is still a commodity, and will be going forward. Proper archiving options would be a welcome addition, as every other software has this. This will be one of the features that people will defend Apple not implementing until they do, and then championing it soon afterwards. And what world are you cutting in that “media with handles” isn’t relevant? Every time anyone does graphics, color, anything it gets handles.
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How is a 1.38TB FCPX library of my project all metadata? How do I drop box this massive wad of unused stuff up to my FX team in Toronto when the library is bloated as shit? My used footage is not 1.38TB – that library is 85% garbage that at this point in the project should be MEDIA MANAGED OUT to lean out the library and make it easy to 1. back up – 2. give to other people working on project and 3. limit the amount of media used in the working project for finishing. Today I am tasked with isolating and exporting 18 sequences — not shots – SEQUENCES – in a feature film – that have to be exported where each individual shot inside the sequence has 8 frame handles on either side. Then they have to be rebuilt in a timeline and sent with an XML up to the FX team via drop box. Do you get it now? There is no quick and easy way to do this inside of FCP X. In 7 it was a matter of 1. duplicate project 2. Isolate each sequence cutting out the unused footage from the rest of the film and 3. media managing the sequences into a new project — with handles. Then sending that smaller package out to the fx team. Got it? At most a half hours worth of work. IN X – Even if I just use the sequences I need to send and put them in separate timelines in a new project in a new library in FCP X – minus the rest of the film — – it STILL keeps all of the excess unused media handles in the shots (clips) – and these fools ran the cameras the whole time without cutting so many shots have multiple takes on them and the library is therefore WAY BLOATED.
-DM
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