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Bill Davis
July 26, 2018 at 9:25 pm[Andrew Kimery] “The reviewer didn’t get it wrong, he just happened to get it right so fast that many people assumed he had to have gotten it wrong. The knee-jerk reaction to the reviewer is where Ready – Fire – Aim took place.”
Well, he got it PARTLY right.
Yes, there was throttling. But NOT because of any actual thermal danger. And his hurried “I’m first” review didn’t go far enough to establish the actual parameters of the issue. So that partial “me first” FIRE cry – in the presence of smoke – but not flames – is what essentially led to everyone else excoriating the new MacBook Pros as “Thermallly flawed” when in fact, they are not.
THIS is the danger of Ready, Fire, Aim.
It’ short circuits the exploratory process. Nobody gets to address the subtitles. Everyone picks sides – before enough information is available to choose those sides wisely.
And that’s not a very good environment for making valid judgments on the utility of tools.
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Bill Davis
July 26, 2018 at 9:30 pm[Shane Ross] “I mean…back at the start of the digital filming revolution, I was working with P2 footage and encountered an import issue…and blogged about it. Apple then contacted me directly and offered to work with me to find the solution, which I did the following day. Two days later an update to FCP was released. Not meaning to toot my own horn here, but it is another example of this “squeaky wheel gets the grease.” In this case it wasn’t a design flaw, or intentional slowdown…but an actual small bug when it came to dealing with footage shot with a specific setting”
Nobody is saying not to blog about OR discuss flaws in Apples work (or any other companies, for that matter.)
Feedback loops are CRITICAL for system evaluation, always.
But in cases like this – its thousands of voices rushing to bellow about how the cars tires are CRAP – when it fact, a day later it’s discovered that it’s poor alignment that’s ACTUALLY causing the inappropriate wear.
Passing along THIS MODEL CAR EATS TIRES!!! – as the bold face headline – doesn’t really help very much, IMO.
Simple as that.
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Oliver Peters
July 26, 2018 at 9:41 pm[Bill Davis] “It’s like your care engine Overheat light is coming on. So you take it in, but it turns out the LIGHT was shorting. NOT that the car was actually overheating.”
That’s an incorrect analogy, because performance was actually affected, even without any potential thermal damage. It wasn’t just that the indicators were wrong.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Oliver Peters
July 26, 2018 at 9:44 pm[Bill Davis] “That’s the nothing burger this particular “gate” turned out to be. “
I’m not so sure. This is one of the rare instances in which Apple has actually admitted an error and given specifics. Usually they provide a fix and gloss over the reasons without a mea culpa. (Butterfly keyboard, anyone?) A bit more transparency can actually help.
☺– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Dominic Deacon
July 26, 2018 at 9:52 pm[Bill Davis] “From what I’ve read, the slim new Apple MacBook Pro runs within EXACTLY the same thermal parameters that also arise from thicker and even RUGGED laptops from many other manufacturers sporting the same level of performance. It get no hotter, cools no less efficiently, and should fail and NOT fail at exactly the same rate as any of it’s competitors.”
I’m not sure that’s really true. Even after the fix the macbook will still only run at the chips base clock speed. Those thicker, more rugged laptops will run at the boost clock speed. Personally I wouldn’t be spending that kind of money on a processor to have it topping out out at 2.9ghz. That processor is just too powerful for that form factor.
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Bill Davis
July 26, 2018 at 10:03 pm[Oliver Peters] “That’s an incorrect analogy, because performance was actually affected, even without any potential thermal damage. It wasn’t just that the indicators were wrong.”
Sure, and IF the issue had affected performance for a lot of real world users – folks would have had every right to be as upset as they liked.
But of course, this was NOT every user, and certainly not under EVERY load case, nor a problem making the overall computer unsuitable for most common tasks.
This was an edge case for users MAXING out their brand new machines.
That it was a problem affecting a very small class of users doesn’t make it right, of course. But it does it likely didn’t stop many filmmakers or documentarians in their tracks or cost them a penny – and it was addressed appropriately once discovered.
So in sum, it’s as I said, this whole thing will likely recede into computer history as a good dose of nothing much.
And so it goes.
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Bill Davis
July 26, 2018 at 10:15 pm[Oliver Peters] “This is one of the rare instances in which Apple has actually admitted an error and given specifics. “
So THAT’S the point of all this?
To extract some form of public mea culpa from Apple?
It’s kind of a stunning notion to apply against motivating a global conglomerate.
But, oh well.
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Bill Davis
July 26, 2018 at 10:21 pm[Dominic Deacon] “That processor is just too powerful for that form factor.
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Well, if you say so.
(I’m presuming you have a computer hardware engineering degree and a clear understanding of their implementation, of course.)
I don’t. So I don’t have the slightest clue whether this will blow over or not.
All I know is that the debate HAS evolved significantly over the past few days.
Pretty much from “Apple’s new laptop has CANCER!” – down to “Apple’s new laptop is, MAYBE, a bit LAZY.”????
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Oliver Peters
July 26, 2018 at 10:23 pm[Bill Davis] “But of course, this was NOT every user, and certainly not under EVERY load case, nor a problem making the overall computer unsuitable for most common tasks.”
How do you know that? Those machines were just released and you don’t a flood of folks going out and dropping that kind of money in the initial days. Especially extra for the i9. I think it’s too early to say that, so it’s good that Apple got in front of this quickly. Especially since – according to Apple – this affected ALL of those laptops, not just the i9.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Oliver Peters
July 26, 2018 at 10:25 pm[Bill Davis] “So THAT’S the point of all this?”
Huh? That’s hardly anyone’s motivation. However, corporate transparency is a good thing.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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