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  • Justin Crowell

    April 8, 2014 at 4:25 am

    Just so we’re clear…

    Al retracted that tweet. I know you can’t REALLY do that…once it’s out there, it’s out there…but he copped to making a big mistake, and regrets it.

    Editor, Producer, DP
    JustinCrowell.com

  • Steve Connor

    April 8, 2014 at 7:25 am

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “”…. if you don’t want to buy our products, just don’t buy them. And, you know, SHUT UP.”
    April 2014, Al Mooney, Product Manager for Adobe Premiere Pro
    https://twitter.com/al_mooney/status/453033347837485057

    I guess Aindreas finally got to him

    Steve Connor

    Class Bully

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 8, 2014 at 11:28 am

    yes. my verbose diatribes on rentier capitalism and the working man doubtless had a big impact on him alright.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • David Cherniack

    April 8, 2014 at 11:57 am

    [Steve Connor] “I guess Aindreas finally got to him”

    More than likely it was all the dickheads on the NAB floor who were loudly venting their fury at a product manager who had no part in the subscription decision. Undoubtedly the best product manager the Adobe video apps have ever had.

    Though you’re joking about it I feel obliged to point out that Aindreas is not a dickhead. Though the “or not” forums seem to bring out the dickhead in some people, I’ve never felt he’s gone beyond gleeful skewering to the point of impolite churlishness.

    Personally, I wish the subscription model had a little more flexibility, if only to calm the dickheads so they could return to nursing their fetishes quietly.

    David
    https://AllinOneFilms.com

  • Paul Neumann

    April 8, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    I have a nursing fetish. Oops! Wrong forum. Carry on.

  • Scott Witthaus

    April 8, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    [Bret Williams] “With improvements to text, plugins, and better trim and keyframe tools than X, it looks like the best of X without a magnetic timeline and premiere put together plus resolve built in.”

    Having played with Resolve 10 editor, it is VERY basic and needs alot more than 70 improvements to be productive and fast. This will be interesting to watch, however.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • David Cherniack

    April 8, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    [Paul Neumann] “I have a nursing fetish. Oops! Wrong forum. Carry on”

    Yes. Best to head on over to the hospital cafeterias forum.

    David
    https://AllinOneFilms.com

  • David Cherniack

    April 8, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “Having played with Resolve 10 editor, it is VERY basic and needs alot more than 70 improvements to be productive and fast.”

    As I’ve pointed out a few times here the history of the industry has consistently shown that it takes around 5 major versions (over about 5 years) for an NLE to reach a mature enough level that it can be adopted as a standard. Maybe BM can speed it up but it doesn’t appear that Apple has, despite its great resources.

    David
    https://AllinOneFilms.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 8, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “I think a ‘loyalty reward’ every 3-4 years would be a great middle ground. After 3-4 years of continuous CC membership you get a perpetual license to the most recent version of all the CC apps. Adobe gets to stay subscription only and users get an ‘off ramp’ if they want it.”

    Hmm, I hear that.

    I just….what’s in it for anyone?

    For Adobe, many people might jump ship after the loyalty period.

    For users, you get an out after paying $1800-2400.

    I know personally, I would have to pay to stay current as all the artists I work with will stay current.

    So, I will need to receive and use, as well as send files that are of the current version. An off ramp really has no use for me. I had to start a subscription to CC for this reason. I couldn’t ask people to save down to cs6 anymore (and sometimes they couldn’t).

    I’d much rather see lower prices for those of use that don’t need all 35(?) CC apps and see some sort of microtransaction for usage. For instance, I don’t subscribe to, but occasionally need to use InDesign, I open it and pay .99 for 24 hours.

    This way, I subscribe to the apps I use, Adobe still gets a subscriber, and they monetize occasional usage directly, and I have a cheap enough service that I don’t really need to think about long term consequences.

    I also think that Adobe has a a very grand plan in that their software will truly be a service, and you’ll need an relatively thin client to run it, but that’s a while away. This current version of CC and Anywhere are the foundations for it, I believe.

    I don’t know, maybe that’s stupid.

    Basically, I’d rather see lower prices for the things I use. The photogs got it, we can’t we video peeps?

  • Dennis Radeke

    April 8, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    [Justin Crowell] “Al retracted that tweet. I know you can’t REALLY do that…once it’s out there, it’s out there…but he copped to making a big mistake, and regrets it.”

    Indeed. Mistake made, apology offered, nothing else to do but move on. To those of you who know Al, he is without doubt, one of the most sensitive people I know. NAB for a vendor is also pretty stressful. That’s not an excuse nor does his retracted statement reflect Adobe’s commitment and passion to our customers. He said something in the heat of the moment and quickly said, “I said something really stupid the other day, and I am really sorry. Thanks for calling me out. Normal service is resumed.”

    ’nuff said,
    Dennis – Adobe guy

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