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The interface is still annoying
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Yep, as I said in 2011 when X came out, it’ll be at least 2014 before it should even be allowed to have the word PRO in it (and its subsequent updates have shown 2014 or later is the correct date, sadly)…I actually want to purchase and use FCP X, want to stay with Apple for hard/software, but honestly their playing games (intentionally or otherwise) with Pros, not good.
seriously, Apple needs to understand what pro environment editing software needs to be, not just quick, quick news or “youtube clips” editing, then release it at once, quit dragging out necessary and obvious features piece-meal…
apart from multi clip editing in FCP X, does seem like FCP 7 or Prem Pro are the best options out there for pro-environment editing, better than AVID I’d say, due to their various plugins and ease of use with other Adobe Apps
Though not sure how Lightworks and Smoke will come to play in all this.
IMHO
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[Paul Neumann] “And that’s why I can’t take this mess seriously. I don’t have time for junk like that.”
I’ve always hated arguments like this. Raise your hand if you’ve ever lost work in Avid, Premiere, FCP7, Vegas…etc.
But somehow, when it happens in FCPX, it’s a reason to forego the entire software and brush it off as unprofessional.
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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Andy,
How many times would you suggest I get burned before I learn the stove is hot? I had one FCPX project change from NTSC 1080p to PAL 720p for gawd sakes.
And I paid my money. And I keep giving it a try. And it keeps letting me down.
You buy a ticket, you’re allowed to boo.
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I’m not doubting what happened to you. But I find it hard to reconcile stories like this. I’ve been using FCPX every day since February on non-inconsequential work, and I’ve never had data suddenly disappear.
In fact, my experience overall has been that on the rare occasions that I do get a crash, everything I’ve done up to the moment of the crash has been retained. Other than restarting not a moment of lost work.
I think it’s important to point this out because if it was entirely indicative of the program itself, then EVERYONE using it would be complaining of stuff like this. And TRUST me, I would be complaining… This has been my busiest year ever, and I credit FCPX with me being able to push more work thru the pipeline than ever before.
So I’m not trying to belittle or belie what happened in your specific case, but I think you need to look at the only two other options: hardware/software configuration, or user error.
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I hear ya. It’s like when I hear people saying that CS6 is better suited for a PC. I’ve run all versions on PC and hands down like it better than anything on a mac. I don’t have a problem with it on a mac like some people (claim they) do.
Nobody more surprised than me have my project settings switched or shortened. Seriously. It’s not like I open it up every once in a while just to complain about it. I love the keyer, the magnetic timeline, the keywords, all of it. It’s screwed me a couple of times and I’m damn leery of it. Luckily no client in the room yesterday.
I’ve had drives fail which led to corrupt projects but never had anything like export/close/open/argh! like happened yesterday. Wish I could say it’s because I didn’t save it right but Apple won’t even let me do that on my own.
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It’s one thing to get pissed that you lost work. To get angry with bugs. It’s pretty immature software after all. But unless you’ve also said that Media Composer can’t be “taken seriously” because of that time your bins became corrupt and Unity crashed, then I’m still gonna say that you’re over-reacting. Hell, I’ve had Premiere crash on me more than X and I’ve used it far less often.
The kind of crash you’re describing is an extremely rare occurrence. I’ve never even heard of someone losing work without the app crashing. And I’ve also never heard of it changing a project from NTSC to PAL either. It sounds to me as if you may have a bad install that is unstable and producing all kinds of problems. This isn’t something that’s happening to everyone and would therefore justify a statement that it’s not to be taken seriously as an editor.
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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[Kent Beeson] “Yep, as I said in 2011 when X came out, it’ll be at least 2014 before it should even be allowed to have the word PRO in it (and its subsequent updates have shown 2014 or later is the correct date, sadly)…I actually want to purchase and use FCP X, want to stay with Apple for hard/software, but honestly their playing games (intentionally or otherwise) with Pros, not good.”
Have you purchased new Apple hardware recently or downloaded and used fcpx on a real project yet?
What has been your experience with either of those?
I agree there’s no new MacPro, but the other Mac offerings are not a game.
Cow contributor Shane Ross blogged about finishing his first show on a 2012 15″ non retina MBP.
Walter Biscardi has blogged a few times now about how iMacs are going to get it done for most of editorial and he actually finds the thunderbolt flexibility advantageous.
Are they playing games? Not professionals? Don’t know what they are talking about? IMHO?
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[Paul Neumann] “And that’s why I can’t take this mess seriously. I don’t have time for junk like that. “
I guess you’ll just have to join the massive and endless line of people who are re-opening their existing projects and finding that those projects are magically “cut off” because of this flaw in X….. oh wait… I’m having trouble understanding the nature of this terrible software flaw problem … so… ‘ll just Google “FCP-X missing content on re-open” and figure out what the thousands of others with this problem have done…. oh … wait… there are a couple of posts about missing EVENTS – but it appears that nobody else is having this problem…. Huh, not sure what to say now.
Perhaps what you’re proclaiming to the universe as “junk” is just your junk? Related to your specific circumstance. Something in your system, or in your workflow, or in your work habits – but not so much a reflection of universal truth?
Look, I know it’s frustrating when you’re trying to edit and something goes wrong. But in a world where everyone is constantly discussing everything on the interwebs and nearly ALL of it is indexed and searchable – it’s totally cool to post your experience. BUT it’s even cooler to take a moment, take a deep breath, and try to figure out if what’s pissed you off is actually about the software or if it’s just about your unique circumstance.
Just sayin’
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I was told by more than one person on a forum or two (can’t remember how many) as well as 1 sales person at APPLE store in my area, that my 2008 MAC PRO 3.0, 12GB RAM, 5870 GFX card is better/faster than any iMac around today (this was in Sept or Oct 2012) as I was actually thinking of getting iMac latest instead of waiting for who knows if/when another mac pro is coming out (really hard to plan for spending when Apple famously won’t let you know what’s around the corner or when, doesn’t matter why, it just won’t happen.)
As to using FCP X, no I haven’t bought it, but I’ve never swam in a barrel of live squid either, but I know I wouldn’t want to do it, based on what I have observed and have heard about the experience of FCP X (tutorials, reviews, discussions for 18 months).
I do have FCP 7 and Adobe PP CS6, and used AVID (for 9 years) many years ago…I do wonder what SMOKE is like…might try it next year.
Thanks
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I haven’t invested in it myself, but anyone who wants a second level of redundancy on backups should really invest in ProVersioner.
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