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Simon Ubsdell
April 18, 2012 at 7:52 pm[Chris Kenny] “Smoke seems like a tool that’s insanely useful to a particular slice of the market and nearly useless to the rest.”
I think that sums it up perfectly. I don’t think the new price point reallt changes that except that a few more people will dive in and buy it … and then wonder why they did.
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Timothy Auld
April 18, 2012 at 9:55 pmTen or so years ago Autodesk (Discrete) set afloat a raft of very loyal customers. Anyone who dealt with them has not now nor will they ever forgive that company. Just under a year ago Apple abandoned a huge number of loyal customers. No one who invested their livelihood is going to forgive them either. I was an early adopter of FCP 1.0 and it became my suite of choice. I stuck with it for 13 years. And they screwed me.
Can anyone tell me why I should listen to another syllable of what Apple has to say?
Tim
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Craig Seeman
April 18, 2012 at 10:07 pm[TImothy Auld] “en or so years ago Autodesk (Discrete) set afloat a raft of very loyal customers. Anyone who dealt with them has not now nor will they ever forgive that company. Just under a year ago Apple abandoned a huge number of loyal customers. No one who invested their livelihood is going to forgive them either. I was an early adopter of FCP 1.0 and it became my suite of choice. I stuck with it for 13 years. And they screwed me.
Can anyone tell me why I should listen to another syllable of what Apple has to say?”
Because you will soon be left with nothing to buy with that thinking.
12 years ago Avid announced they were no longer going to support the Mac. The backlash probably changed their mind. Symphony took years to come to Mac (although there may have been good technical reasons for that). This was at a time when facilities where hit with the issue that it could cost upwards of $60,000 a seat to change!Sometime around 2003 or so Adobe Premiere Pro cam out and unlike Premiere, it didn’t support the Mac so such users who were expecting to move up felt abandoned. In 2007 Adobe added Mac support.
All the A companies have done serious damage in my opinion. You can argue which was worse but having lived through being an engineer at an Avid based facility at the time of this incident, the duress created given the expense was greater than what Apple did (in my personal opinion).
I am a business person as well as a “creative” and I well base my decisions on anticipated ROI. So many products live for a few years and die, that I can’t simply expect eternal life for a software package. I just want to make enough money so my time to learn and return on use makes its lifespan, whatever that may be, worthwhile for my business.
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Jeremy Garchow
April 18, 2012 at 10:28 pm[TImothy Auld] “Can anyone tell me why I should listen to another syllable of what Apple has to say?”
Then who DO you trust? and why?
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Timothy Auld
April 18, 2012 at 10:38 pmLeft with nothing to buy? What a conundrum! And let us not forget that Avid’s threat to abandon the Mac platform was the birth of FCP. And I don’t expect “eternal life.” But I do expect companies that sell me something to follow through on that thing. Apple has not. They are making, quite literally, hundreds of millions of dollars off my back. And that in the words of Don Corleone “is something I do not forgive.
Tim
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Timothy Auld
April 18, 2012 at 10:52 pmAnd I asked why I should trust Apple. Answer that question before you take leave to ask me who I trust and why. That is obfuscation of the highest order.
Tim
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Craig Seeman
April 18, 2012 at 10:54 pm[TImothy Auld] “But I do expect companies that sell me something to follow through on that thing.”
They all do and then they don’t. Nearly every company in this industry.
[TImothy Auld] “They are making, quite literally, hundreds of millions of dollars off my back. “
Gee I was under the impression they weren’t because it’s not an iPhone. They’re making anything off your back if you’ve chosen not to use their product or even if they’ve chosen not to make a product you like.
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Craig Seeman
April 18, 2012 at 10:56 pmProbably one of the most mature posts I’ve seen on this forum.
Can you please keep discussion “rational?”
I guess you’ve never talked to an Edit* user or you are selectively prejudice against Apple.
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