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The Cloud
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[Chris Harlan] “Actually, I was off. Time was referencing Prime Focus, which does seem to use Aspera as I suggested, but for only slightly less big companies.
“This is one of those things we’ve been hearing about and that has been promised to us for so many years that I can’t even remember when I started getting excited about it. However, after years of waiting, I’m growing skeptical now and wondering if we’ll ever see anything that’s truly affordable for us mortals in our lifetimes.
Just think, maybe someday you and I “may” be exchanging similar messages questioning whether FCP X will ever deliver in our lifetimes.
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Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Depends on what your definition of “deliverable” is.
Shoot as much HD in the field as you need. Proxy that to the cloud if you need to share footage with others, keep it local if not.
Cut your project.
If it’s a spot or a short length work, Sync only the deliverable in full res as an upload for distribution.
If it’s a longer length edit like a TV show or a documentary, somebody has to take delivery of the full rez source files, load them locally, download or load that that proxy in suite to conform a master – and distribute that by something with enough bandwidth to make sense. Satellite, optical line, or Fed Ex – whatever works and the client can afford.
I will say that in my corporate training work over the past two decades, program length has dropped dramatically.
I used to commonly do corporate training programs in 30-40 minute lengths.
I haven’t done a piece (outside of convention coverage where they want the troops to get a wide view of the entire event) that’s been longer than 8 minutes in about 3 years.
My typical deliverable is averaging between 3 and 5 minutes these days – likely because all the client’s want it to be web accessible.
The trends I’m seeing are: Shorter delivered masters. Huge increases in compression delivery algorithm efficiency, and increasing need for distributed production. (Clients want me to go to them to discuss and tweek edits, not stop what they’re doing and come to me.)
These are some of the fundamental shifts that I’m seeing.
Combine these elements with the need for increasing team web collaboration and delivery format agility and I think thats why tools like FCP-X will find a place. Laptop friendly. Compression agile. It’s perhaps a RISC editor? Pared down to what’s required for the average real world job – and to become that, they had to stop trying to be the perfect uber-Hollywood all-in-one suite tool.
Just things to consider.
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The reality is that today there are two cloud computing NLE concepts: Avid and Quantel. Both are currently delivering products. Apple in the form of FCP and FCP X still hasn’t figured out project sharing.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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The shows I’m working on are all so security conscious that I don’t see them wanting to store any dailies online in the foreseeable future. We do use DAX once in a while, but even that is used sparingly.
Chris
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I saw the Avid version at SMPTE last year. I thought it was pretty cool. I didn’t know it was delivering. I have not seen Quantel’s but would certainly be interested in doing so.
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[Chris Conlee] “The shows I’m working on are all so security conscious that I don’t see them wanting to store any dailies online in the foreseeable future. We do use DAX once in a while, but even that is used sparingly.
Chris
“Yeah, I see some of that too. A safe to lock everything away at the end of the evening, and the notion that I might take a GRAID with me to do some work an abominable thought to the powers that be.
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[Chris Harlan] “. I have not seen Quantel’s but would certainly be interested in doing so”
It’s their QTube product.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Gary Huff] “So how do you get your deliverable then? I guess the program itself would have to support transcoding your local files, but then you lose the speed reason why you’d use the cloud in the first place (rendering).”
To have full res locally or really close by.
Ship/keep a drive(s) well in advance to your finishing location and do what you need to do. Look at FCPX’s proxy creation. Now, imagine that ProRes proxy was uploadable. A simple reconnect and done. Color, sound, interchange, whatever and you’re back to whatever quality was shot.
In other words, the “cloud” or whatever it’s called/technically referencing (IP Storage) would simply send all “info” minus video data back to you, to easily reconnect to your local machine.
Some VFX/ Graphics might have to be done local @ full res or offer an easy way to rebuild those in full res if created in the cloud upon your conform back to local.
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I read that Apple is considering continuing iDisk and other MobileMe features if there is enough customer feedback. Tim Cook actually had his office call a customer, who complained, back and told him that. So…let’s get on it! I use it fir my clients ALL he time in much the same way you’ve described. And would be happy to continue to pay for it!
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try south africa where our internet speed is about 1/10th of yours and we pay 5 times as much….
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