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The AMD FirePro is optimized for Adobe Creative Cloud
Posted by Walter Biscardi on June 13, 2013 at 1:01 pmGood info on the new AMD FirePro which will be featured in the new Mac Pro machines. They have quite a lineup of them.
https://www.fireprographics.com/adobe/
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Lance Bachelder
June 13, 2013 at 4:07 pmYeah they’re working on Windows machines now – I plan to install W7000 to test with new CC next week – specs and benchmarks look very promising as the W7000 outperforms Quadro K5000 at just about 1/3 the price! Also has 4 Display ports and can support 4 4K monitors. I plan to add 2 of the new LG 27″ 10bit LCDs and run 3 mon. setup including my Dreamcolor all in 10 bit!
Impressive test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhjCEDmU9jA
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Alex Gerulaitis
June 13, 2013 at 9:06 pm[walter biscardi] “Good info on the new AMD FirePro which will be featured in the new Mac Pro machines”
Did they test only against K2000 though? That’s like clubbing baby seals… Would love to see a test against a GTX-780.
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Lance Bachelder
June 13, 2013 at 10:50 pmThose benchmarks are both entry level $400 cards. Not gonna see benchmarks against GTX series because it is a gamer card and only outputs 8 bit so useless for paying post work.
Another benchmark: https://www.fireprographics.com/resources/AMD_W8000_benchmark_V2.pdf
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Alex Gerulaitis
June 13, 2013 at 11:11 pm[Lance Bachelder] “Not gonna see benchmarks against GTX series because it is a gamer card and only outputs 8 bit so useless for paying post work.”
Love blanket statements. 🙂
Do you have any stats, how many paid editors use a fully 10-bit path to their display monitors? Among 200-300 I know, maybe 5… But I don’t know enough to make sweeping statements…
On top of that, have you seen Quadro vs. GeForce benchmarks in, say, AE ray tracing? Perchance some “paying post work” might actually swing for faster rendering vs. 10-bit?
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Jeff Meyer
June 14, 2013 at 2:13 amI’ll bet my right pinky finger ray tracing with a FirePro is a painful experience. But with Element 3D for fast work and Cineware where quality is paramount, I’m not sure why anyone with AFX CC would be using the ray traced renderer.
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In my own experiences running Premiere CC on a laptop with a 6750M things certainly are faster than they were in CS6. I have a similarly speced tower with a Q4000. While the 6750M seems to go a little bit further with E3D, the Q4000 seems to get a fair bit more done in Premiere. To be fair, I haven’t tried CC on the Q4000.
I think when CC gets out in the wild we’ll see CUDA continues to offer the most bang-for-buck in hardware acceleration. But I’m certainly open to being proven wrong.
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Lance Bachelder
June 14, 2013 at 3:01 amGlad you loved the statement – sounds you know a whole lot of gamers 🙂
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Walter Soyka
June 15, 2013 at 12:59 am[Lance Bachelder] “Yeah they’re working on Windows machines now – I plan to install W7000 to test with new CC next week – specs and benchmarks look very promising as the W7000 outperforms Quadro K5000 at just about 1/3 the price!”
Lance, please do share your findings. I’m looking forward to hearing how it performs.
I use AMD cards on Dataton WATCHOUT display systems, but I’ve only used NVIDIA on recent creative production machines.
[Lance Bachelder] “Not gonna see benchmarks against GTX series because it is a gamer card and only outputs 8 bit so useless for paying post work.”
Is this a variation on “Apple doesn’t care about professionals?” You just disqualified the entire Mac platform from paying post work 🙂
Two things I’d mention on this:
1) Premiere Pro is not color-managed (obligatory feature request link [link], I’ve filed mine on this, the more the merrier!)
2) I do use a full 10-bit pipeline myself, and especially in graphics, I actually have to be very careful of this. It’s very easy to create a beautiful gradient that looks smashing in 10-bit, but bands horribly in 8-bit. While I prefer 10-bit monitoring myself for more accurate color management, there is something to be said for understanding how others will see it.
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Walter Soyka
June 15, 2013 at 1:01 am[Alex Gerulaitis] “Do you have any stats, how many paid editors use a fully 10-bit path to their display monitors? Among 200-300 I know, maybe 5… But I don’t know enough to make sweeping statements…”
Make that 5 editors and 1 designer.
[Alex Gerulaitis] “On top of that, have you seen Quadro vs. GeForce benchmarks in, say, AE ray tracing? Perchance some “paying post work” might actually swing for faster rendering vs. 10-bit?”
One could use GTXs for 8-bit displays and faster rendering, and use a video I/O card for 10-bit HD-SDI monitoring (redeeming the Mac platform per above).
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Walter Biscardi
June 16, 2013 at 9:18 pm[Walter Soyka] “One could use GTXs for 8-bit displays and faster rendering, and use a video I/O card for 10-bit HD-SDI monitoring (redeeming the Mac platform per above).”
I don’t know anyone who requires 10bit out of their graphics card. Nobody I know or work with. We just use the GPUs for the render power.
Our 10bit displays are driven by AJA and Blackmagic products.
Sorry, we’re not gamers here, just video production professionals
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
Biscardi Creative MediaFoul Water Fiery Serpent, an original documentary featuring Sigourney Weaver. US & European distribution by American Public Television
MTWD Entertainment – Developing original content for all media.
“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.
“Science Nation” – Three years and counting of Science for the People.
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