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  • Text scroll All jittery… no solution found yet

    Posted by Duke Eastwood on February 20, 2025 at 3:50 pm

    I have a mogrt with a basic text scroll with basic 3d to creative the text roll similar to the into text in Star Wars type of effect… it’s the setting in the essential graphics panel called “roll”

    The text jitters no matter what I try… from the internet here’s everything I’ve tried so far

    Exporting at different settings, I typical finish with h264 .mp4 files… most people would say that may be the problem causing flickering text… well just about every other file type and codec has the same flickering text… some of the more “high end” codecs actually make it look worse.

    Slowing the text down: this kind of minimizes the flickering, but it’s still there, and because it’s

    slower and still there you can focus more on how many times per second you see the flickering.

    Remove the Basic 3d: no effect

    Drop shadow: obviously no different

    “reduce Interlace Flicker”: zero effect

    “Compound Blur”: Not only does it not work, doesn’t work on text, and if it did it wouldn’t matter because I don’t want to blur text just to make it NOT flicker. I tried other blurs to see if the concept worked at all… it doesn’t. Zero idea what people who suggest this removes the flicker are even talking about.

    “Change color of text slightly”: obviously does zero

    “Deflicker” in Field Options: You can chose between “none, always deinterlace, and flicker removal” if you right click the graphic. Choosing “Flicker Removal” seems to actually make the flicker worse, also it caused premiere to crash after the export

    Why can’t premiere pro export rolling text that doesn’t flicker in 2025? Does anyone have solution to this? I’m guessing not, this is why I enumerated everything I’ve already tried because if someone suggested I should change the color of the text I’d want to hang myself. How do the people suggesting these solutions not look for themself and see that not ONE of these “””solutions””” accomplishes anything?

    I’m guessing After Effects could do a smoother text roll… but I don’t pay for a AE subscription and I change the text all the time and don’t want to keep reexporting it in AE when I do, I don’t use it enough to pay for AE and try to use the dynamic link, which I’ve never had luck with anyway.

    Is there ANYONE out there with any way of MAYBE making text roll smoothly like was seen EVERYWHERE ON EARTH IN EVERY MOVIE AND TV SHOW IN HISTORY before Premiere Pro?

    Devrim Akteke replied 1 month ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    February 20, 2025 at 9:51 pm

    Hey Duke,

    This sounds like an old age problem going back to actual film production (including the first Star Wars film).

    I suspect that you are exporting in progressive (full frame export), and that the text is moving too fast.

    Either go Interlaced, or slow down the text movement to point where the flicker dissappear.

    You could also give it ago with 50p or 60p export, if that is something that you can use?

    It will be trial and error, and you may have to edit the text to make it shorter.

    Hope that this helps?

    Atb
    Mads

  • Duke Eastwood

    February 20, 2025 at 10:54 pm

    hm, you think the way they fixed the problem in Star Wars was making the film INTERLACED?

  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    February 21, 2025 at 12:12 am

    Duke, I am not your enemy here, and sarcasm will get you nowhere.

    Back in 1984 I started out as a cinema projectionist.

    On 35mm – this is where celluoid is played back at either 24 frames-per-second, or 25 frames per second or whatever speed the projector was set to in fps (Called fps in common language).
    Full frame though the gate, or progressive as we call it today for video.

    Let’s for argument say that you swing the camera around, or roll a graphic fast up the screen, then it will start jumping, as the frames are not played back fast enough to make it a smooth movement.

    For “slow-motion” you might shoot 120 fps and play back at 25fps.

    Likewise, if you wanted to make it faster, you could “cut” frames out, or film a projection run at half speed.

    Still with me?

    Here is the kicker: If you have progressive footage, it will always remain progressive, so depending on your playback, you could render out your movie with progressive video in an interlaced format to allow your text to roll smoothly.

    Or you change the speed of your text roll to a longer length until there are no jitter or artefacts.

    Obviously, sometimes flicker can from other sources like not using an appropriate font, or using an unregistered plugin – there are many ways this can go wrong. But my first call would be to start with making the text roll for much, much longer (slow it down in case that is not apparent), to see if that removes the jitter.

    Good Luck.

    Atb
    Mads

  • Duke Eastwood

    February 21, 2025 at 12:30 am

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    Exporting the text as interlaced only makes the problem worse, and thank god for that because I’m not going to export the entire video as interlaced simply because Adobe can’t make text scroll, Premiere won’t even allow you to change a sequence that is already progressive into interlaced, but I bet you didn’t know that.

     

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  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    February 21, 2025 at 12:32 am

    Did you try to extend the length of the roll by a far margin?

    Yes/No?

    Simple question, right.

    With that in mind, maybe you need to head over to Adobe and went your anger there…

  • Duke Eastwood

    February 21, 2025 at 12:35 am

    Yeah they should hire me because they need at least ONE person with a brain looking over what they do there, something they obviously don’t have.

     

    Slowing it down to a rate that is a common speed for text does NOTHING to solve the problem.

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  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    February 21, 2025 at 12:38 am

    Sorry, you clearly messed up somewhere.

    Out of interest, are you using a cracked version of Adobe CC?

    And, as I said, investigate your graphic – maybe change the font as a test…?

    Mooooohhhh – is what we normally tell abusive users here.

    Shortly the Bull that runs this barn will be coming at you full tilt – so just keep on waving the red flag.

  • Mads Nybo jørgensen

    February 21, 2025 at 1:12 am

    You are right, I can’t help you.

    One last suggestion: Try and change the font to “Comic Sans” make it bold, maybe a bit of pink colour, and see if that helps you?

    You might think that I am joking, I am not, but you have to be willing to try the other extreme to see if that fixes your flicker.

    Maybe help all the people that are smarter than me on the COW by uploading an actual example of the problem + the specs of your system and software.

    I know, it is frustrating, but then again, Adobe is not what it used to be.

    Maybe if you export the elements to VEGAS and see what that does?
    (I have recently purchase Vegas, so I am really not making a joke on that point)

    Good Luck
    Mads

    BTW: I am the only one here who has tried to help you, late night, in my spare time. What does that tell you?

  • Devrim Akteke

    February 21, 2025 at 5:28 am

    Well unfortunately there is not a fix for this inside Premiere Pro. That is shame for Adobe. If you want to keep it inside Premiere you may try to prepare the text as a graphic in Photoshop or a smilar program and play with the position rotation values and Basic 3D effect. Very old school way I know but there is not a proper solution to this in Premiere Pro. And I don’t gurantee this will wotk 100%.

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