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Text completely shrinks and turns jagged after rendering
Hello,
I have a problem that it seems I cannot solve, and would very much appreciate your insight.
I have created a video work, which is based on both text and images. This work is meant to be projected on a wall/screen, thus the size. The dimensions of the composition are 1800px X 2850px.
I have tried to render this work in varied ways (both in After Effects and Media Encoder): H.264, lossless, VBR, 2 pass, target 18.50 Mbps; unchecked Frame Blending; checked Use Maximum Render Quality. I also tried to render it straight to Vimeo preset. Yet, although the images are clearly sharp, the text significantly shrinks and is completely jagged (the size of the typeface is 50px).
I would like to note that in a previous video work, that its dimensions are even larger, I used the same typeface (but size 36px) and the outcome is clear in both H.264 and 1080. I took a screen shot to compare between the two works: the text on the left is of the previous work, and on the right is of the current work. I have compared between the settings, of these two works, and the only difference (apart of the composition size) is the typeface size, which is smaller in the previous work (36px). Thus, I tested again my composition, with a smaller typeface (36 px), and a larger one (75px). Yet when I rendered it the result in both tests was of that very same jaggedness.
I also want to add that at some point I thought to create the text in Photoshop and import it to AE, but many parts of the text are built through animation.Any ideas, where my mistake is?
Thanks!
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Hello,
Thanks for your response. I have built this sequence in high res, since it will be projected from different distances and projectors (based on previous experience with my other works). Furthermore, since it is predominantly a text based sequence, and the sharpness of the text it acute, I wanted to stick to these dimensions. Yet, before I even project this work, I have to upload it to both vimeo and youtube, and right now the text not only is shrunk, but also completely jagged. I read that rendering text can be tricky, and would appreciate any ideas you have with this regard.
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I would like to add to my question form yesterday-
I tried to reduce my comp size from 1800X2850 to 1080X1710, and consequently reduced the font size from 50px to 40px. I rendered it twice, first to H.264 and than to 1080. Truly the text is bigger, and this time has maintained its proportion to the size of the frame, still, however, seems to be jagged.Since there are many animation components to the text, and about 50 layers, I wish I could find a way to render the file without the need to re-build the whole work again in lower res, and have it good for both the web, and projection on a screen.
I would appreciate your insights.
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It should render almost exactly as you can preview it in your viewport. Otherwise you have something wrongly set. Either way I believe its best you adjust your resolutions for each output. Print, Vimeo, Projection and so on.
Can you render a single frame (ctrl + als + s) and upload? and take a printscreen of the same frame, So we can see how jagged it becomes.
Cassius Marques
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I haven’t been scaling up or down different compositions, and the text has been typed directly (50px). The dimensions are fixed through the whole sequence: 1800X2850 px. I do however have nay animations applied onto the text.
I tried to resize a layer (scale down to 1080X1710), while rendering it, but the text is small and pixelated.
Here is another screen shot.
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I also think that it is something with the animation, since in a previous text-based sequence that I created (dimensions are even bigger), which didn’t have any animation, there was no problem at all.
If so, how can I fix this? -
I still cant see the rendered output. The first SS you provided has a broken link (at least for me).
Cassius Marques
http://www.zapfilmes.com -
I am not married to the current speed, not at all. I just wonder if this is the cause for this shrinkage and jaggedness of the text. I do see that the motion is not smooth and a bit jumpy, but how does it affect the size of the text?
In the meanwhile I exported one text layer to a new composition (scaled down the dimensions), re-positioned the text and scaled down the font size. The result is much better, though not perfect, and I wonder if this should be my direction (in parallel to resolving the animation issue). If so, that means that I actually have to build the whole sequence again, and I have about 50 layers (some of them are pre comps).Here is the screen shot from my first post again (of a text layer with animation).
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Thanks.
How do I know if I am rendering with interlacing, or not? I would like to know how to change this.
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[Noa Sussmann] “This work is meant to be projected on a wall/screen, thus the size. The dimensions of the composition are 1800px X 2850px.”
Let’s talk about this part.
Using non-standard resolutions, especially with standards-enforcing codecs like H.264, can get you in trouble pretty quickly. Depending on your encoding profile and level, your output may be automatically scaled down to fit within an HD, 2K or 4K/UHD frame. Depending on how the scaling is performed, you may unpleasing, aliased results.
Let’s start at the end and work our way back to the front of the workflow. How do you intend to display this?
Walter Soyka
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