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  • Terrible video quality PP & Canon 5D

    Posted by Elli Morris on June 24, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    Hi,
    I created a short vid shot on my 5D. Saved it as Quicktime, H.264, framerate 29.97 (& I tried it at 30), render at maximum depth, use maximum render quality. It looks like it’s been shot on a child’s plastic 1 megapixel toy camera. Even the text is all pixeled. What am I doing so wrong? How do I get my videos to be saved looking as good as they look while open in PP? Here is a link to the video: https://vimeo.com/99077085 It is on vimeo as 1080p.

    Jp Pelc replied 11 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Dennis Radeke

    June 24, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    Hi there Elli,

    Under Format, instead of Quicktime, you might look at H.264 instead where there are more options and presets to look at.

    For example, if you want to publish to Vimeo, we have worked with Vimeo to create presets that require no transcoding once published to their servers. You can find those VImeo presets under the H.264 format.

    HTH,
    Dennis – Adobe guy

  • Tero Ahlfors

    June 25, 2014 at 9:14 am

    So what seems to be the problem with that video? Looks good to me.

  • Jp Pelc

    June 25, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Try exporting as quicktime with x264 or H264 codec and increasing bitrate to ~15mbps

  • Chris Borjis

    June 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Agree with Tero, it doesn’t look as bad as you described.

    and Dennis is right, the h.264 export (not quicktime) of
    an h.264 yields a superior result.

  • Elli Morris

    June 25, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Thank you. I set the files to be 1080 on vimeo but then, ah, I realized if I click that little HD down in the corner of the video it looks better!

    The original file in PP looks great, the file I saved is so-so and the vimeo is now better than it was. I will try the various options suggested to see if the saved file can improve. And hence the vimeo will be as good as can be.

    Again, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • Elli Morris

    June 26, 2014 at 1:20 am

    Showing my ignorance but…. when I save it as a h.264 it will be a mp4 and when I do it as quicktime, using h.264, it is a .mov. What is the difference? I tested it as a quicktime, h.264, with 15mbps and it is better. Even the font is no longer squiggly/pixled. But, what is the effective difference between mp4 & .mov?

  • Mike Smith

    June 26, 2014 at 9:45 am

    Video files use audio and video compression and store the compressed data in a file, in a file format – the compression scheme is not the same thing as the file format. Quicktime is a file format, and quicktime files – .mov files – can include data compressed using a number of different compression methods, including h.264 Quicktime files have an Apple heritage.

    mp4 is another file format, and can accept a (much more limited than .mov) range of compression schemes, including h.264 compression. mp4 files are playable on most devices and are not dependent on a quicktime player capability or component.

    h.264 is an audio/video compression format. h.264 video can be stored in mp4 or .mov files.

    The differences you are seeing are much more likely due to bitrate or other compression choices than to choice of file format

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_compression_format

    https://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-mov-and-mp4/

    https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3775

  • Jp Pelc

    June 26, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    What Mike said. It is all highly technical, but a practical way of choosing .mp4 with H264 vs .mov with H264 is compatibility vs quality. .mp4 is compatible with more devices, but I find .mov to yield a better quality (albeit slight). So when going to Vimeo or YouTube I always go with .mov

    Also, you should try to get a hold of an x264 encoder to run with Premiere/AME. It uses H264 formats but I guess some sort of different technique, and it fixes some of the problems with H264 (sync issues, color issues)

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