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  • James Mckenna

    July 23, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    Hi Sal and Chris,

    Love the forums, they can make an otherwise uneventful week interesting. Since some things are being thrown around here I wanted to chime in. We’ve been selling the same product, by the same name for 11 years. Because of the large sample size, you will find some customers who have had issues, hence “Terrorblock” (have you heard of Avid “CRISIS”, and “EditScare”?). People usually don’t post to forums when things are going well, and emotions run high in this business.

    Reliability is our number one concern, and we have been very reactive to problems in the field. We are proud of our support, having taken some seemingly cursed sites and turned them around to strong references and case studies. I don’t need to tell you that your due diligence is the right way to approach this, and no one should question anyone bringing up the discussion about reliability. I can promise that I can offer many sites that are happy with our product, running close to, if not the exact same configuration as you’ve been proposed.

    Please let me know if I can answer any questions.

    Jim McKenna
    Facilis Technology
    978-562-7022 x101

  • Jason Starne

    July 23, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    Hi Sal

    Sorry for all the confusion. If you’d like to see a demo in Houston I can set that up for you. Let me know. My email is jason@cinesysinc.com. Thanks.

  • Chris Casey

    July 23, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    James,

    Appreciate you chiming in here. Storage has changed many times over in 11 years, so respectfully, your product is probably not the “same” today as it was before, but I could be wrong. Can you explain in detail the extent that your product relies on Windows 7 and the role that Windows 7 plays or does not play in the Terrablock? Its my understanding that the Filessystem and networking are not native Windows, yet in a demo of your product when I asked about CIFS/SMB shares I was told that it could do that but was limited by Windows 7’s concurrent connection allowances, which seems to insinuate that Windows 7 plays some role in the product. I would like to know what the scope of that role is.

    Cheers

    Some IT Director that Bob thinks should be fired because IT people can’t understand video needs.

  • James Mckenna

    July 23, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    Chris,

    From what I’ve seen in the market these past many years, avoiding the Windows licensing fees and increased cost of server OS is the primary reason for basing a NAS on Linux. There are many Windows-based NAS solutions out there, including Avid’s products, entirely windows-based. The trick is to lock down the Windows install, and give the OS as little information about what you’re doing as possible.

    We create virtual volumes, and expose them to the Windows OS, so that you can have access to the storage allocations from the Windows OS if you chose (to re-share, backup/archive, etc.). However during the normal operation of the system, Windows has no shares listed in computer management or on the UNC path. Windows server services can be disabled entirely and it will not affect our clients’ ability to mount virtual volumes over IP or FC.

    I’d be happy to get you on another demo to see this interaction if you like.

    Thanks,

    Jim McKenna
    Facilis Technology
    978-562-7022 x101

  • Chris Casey

    July 23, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    So you aren’t using Windows 7 HAL?

    Some IT Director that Bob thinks should be fired because IT people can’t understand video needs.

  • Chris Casey

    July 23, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    Howdy,

    Thanks, a demo would be great. I’ll email you shortly.

    Cheers,

    Some IT Director that Bob thinks should be fired because IT people can’t understand video needs.

  • Elvin Jasarevic

    July 23, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    Respect to James whom I know personally.

    Chris,

    I dont like to speak negative about my competition so i advice everyone to check for themselves and decide.

    I would like to say about DDP sharing of PC/MAC/Linux that whatever is seen on Mac drive, it is also seen on PC or Linux and everyone can read and write at the same time with no restrictions related to sharing or speed.

    With DDP you get full speed all the time, to everyone.

    And with DDPs MCS (multiple connections per session and example with 4 x 1GbE we can push over 300MB/s (some NAS servers with 10GbE cant do that properly especially if you install Avid MC), and new MacPro with thunderbolt can do even 2.2GB/s.

    This makes DDP as only shared storage solution who can do 4K 10 Bit uncompressed DPX with new MacPro..

    Can anyone do faster using the same Mac?

    elvin@ddp.jp
    https://www.ddpsan.asia

  • Chris Casey

    July 23, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    Elvin,

    Very impressive speeds for sure. As I’ve stated before though, speed isn’t the only factor here. When our studio talks about mission critical infrastructure they are talking about having to meet very tight turn around times and naturally my mind thinks redundancy/failover multi-head, multi-switch etc. Can you speak to the architecture of a system that delivers those speeds while designed to meet those HA requirements?

    Cheers,

    Some IT Director that Bob thinks should be fired because IT people can’t understand video needs.

  • Elvin Jasarevic

    July 23, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    “Same IT Director that Bob thinks should be fired because IT people can’t understand video needs.”

    LOL

    Bellow is a link for our Facebook page where you can see Dual Head controller and 6 additional chassis (JBOD’s).

    Configuration bellow means no matter if your CPU, raid card, memory etc goes down on one controller, second head/controller will automatically jump in and you can just keep working..Thats is what we call DDP redundant series with no single point of failure.

    Speed tests you saw in my previous email was done on what we call miniDDP with 24 drives, 2’5″, SATA 7200.

    The same DDP pushed 2.6GB/s using the Supermicro PC with 40GbE.

    On the same link bellow you can also see video with our new security officer Otto, connecting macbook pro – wirelessly..

    😉

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/DDP-Dynamic-Drive-Pool/306262712861

    its MTV on link above.

    elvin@ddp.jp
    https://www.ddpsan.asia

  • Chris Casey

    July 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    That’s pretty sweet. Not the MTV part, they used to be kewl, you know back when they played videos ;0

    Thanks!

    Some IT Director that Bob thinks should be fired because IT people can’t understand video needs.

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