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  • “Teach” FCP Timecode Order

    Posted by Emory Dunn on July 9, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    I have around 200 tapes that need to be re-digitised which by its self isn’t too bad but the tapes were recored using (some of the time) time-of-day for the timecode and just to make things even harder some tapes use a 24 hour clock others use 12 hour. But the real catch is that I have clips already made (from when they were originally digitised into AVID) and I need to be able to reuse those same clips, which means just capturing the whole tape without the original timecode isn’t an option.

    So, what I’m wondering is if there is any way to “teach” FCP the order of the timecode on the tape so it knows that, for example, hour 1 comes after hour 12.

    Jerry Hofmann replied 15 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    July 9, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    YOu don’t have to teach FCP this… it already assumes that later TC is later on the tape… You should be able to just batch digitize the clips if all the TC on them is ascending in time. Doesn’t matter where the TC starts.

    Jerry

    Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski.

    8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays

  • Emory Dunn

    July 9, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    That’s the problem; the timecode isn’t always in order. I’ve had a couple tapes that go in this order: 11,12,1 or have hour 18 before 16 followed by 17.

  • Jerry Hofmann

    July 9, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Well, you’ll have to manually put the tape in the correct hour code before you batch clips within that hour’s code… no other way to do this I’m afraid. Sloppy shooters cause headaches like this for sure.

    That said, if you want to start all over, the thing to do is copy the errant TC’d tapes first to get to a continuous TC source tape.

    Jerry

    Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski.

    8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays

  • Emory Dunn

    July 9, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    That’s what I’ve been doing, and it’s a slow process but it works (until it runs into other timecode errors). Thanks for your help!

  • John Pale

    July 9, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    Another thing that may be possible would be to give different sections of the tape different reel numbers

    such as 5A, 5B etc. This keeps FCP from searching in the wrong direction for the timecode, as it thinks its a new tape. You might have to shuttle a bit, so that you are inside the correct hour on your “reel changes”..

    I remember doing this a long time ago, and it made things go a bit faster.

  • Matt Callac

    July 9, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    [John Pale] “Another thing that may be possible would be to give different sections of the tape different reel numbers

    such as 5A, 5B etc”

    I usually do this if there’s some sort of timecode problem. It works well. Not sure how you’d accomplish this where you are right now…unless you already have noted somewhere which tapes have messed up TC.
    -mattyc

  • Emory Dunn

    July 9, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    That sounds like nice solution unfortunately I don’t always know where the breaks are. And even then that might not always work since some tapes have two of the same hour (hour 1 at the beginning an then another hour 1 at the end). I’m basically just dealing with disastrous tapes.

    Thanks for all the suggestion though, I might see if I can find a way to use them.

  • John Pale

    July 9, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Good God.

    I might find the nearest bar, instead.

    Hope you are billing by the hour.

    J

  • Matt Callac

    July 9, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    I’d either sit down and scan all the tapes (or pay someone else to) making notes of every time the TC goes out of a normal numeric sequence. then incriment the tapes into parts. For instance notes on one tape
    would say TC

    11:00:00:00-15:00:00:00
    Break
    2:00:00:00-4:00:00:00
    Break
    1:00:00:00-2:00:00:00

    then name each chunk as a tape so tape 001 would now be 001a 001b 001c.

    then take your notes and modify the reel names in your batch list…and capture.

    Unfortunately with your tapes that have multiple areas with the same TC…you’ll have
    -mattyc

  • Jerry Hofmann

    July 9, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    LOLL

    Jerry

    Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski.

    8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays

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