Tape is dying.. (Our first realityshow, broadcasted in HD)

[Chris Borjis]

[Anders Haavie] “I am happy to see tape disappear from our workflow. No more tc-breaks ! (“

well not quite. you CAN have time code breaks on XDCAM-HD disc media. not sure if memory card XDCAM-EX does though.

I had it happen a few times. but generally, yeah its much better than tape.

[Elijah Lynn]

Bye tape. I will miss you too! NOT

Doug Jenson of Vortex media has some very good points in his free EX1 overview video that talk about why digital backups are so much easier than tape! I like the point he makes that, Ok so you have tape, you have 1 copy and it is located in 1 geographic area. If that tape gets damaged then all your footage is damaged.With no tapes you can make easier duplicates of your footage and store them offsite. So, it is actually much safer than tape if you do it right.

[Chris Borjis]

one reason I like XDCAM-HD Disc is that you already have it archived.

but with 50GB blu-ray discs (essentially the same media with the high shelf life)
it’s just a step away.

[Andy Mees]

AND shipped to the tvstation on an HDCAM disk.

HDCAM disk? Is that a new format?? 🙂

[Andy Mees]

[Chris Borjis] “well not quite. you CAN have time code breaks on XDCAM-HD disc media”

Really? I would love to see how you managed that Chris. And I’m guessing that if it were an issue then you weren’t using a tapeless workflow?

[Mark Raudonis]

[Andy Mees] “[Chris Borjis] “well not quite. you CAN have time code breaks on XDCAM-HD disc media”
“

Time of day timecode will create timecode breaks on every clip. I think that’s what he means. Within a clip? No. Between clips. Absolutely.

Mark

[Anders Haavie]

XDCAM disk.. sorry.

Anders

Xraid-Xserve-Xsan-Xeverything

[Chris Borjis]

[Andy Mees] “[Chris Borjis] “well not quite. you CAN have time code breaks on XDCAM-HD disc media”

Really? I would love to see how you managed that Chris. And I’m guessing that if it were an issue then you weren’t using a tapeless workflow?”

the person operating the camera changed the time code mid way through the disc
and a break occured.

another break and video glitch happened on another xdcam hd disc. this happened
on only 2 out of 30 discs though.

I got around it with capture now on one, then only getting before the glitch and after
the glitch on the other.

it was all tapeless.

[Chris Borjis]

[Mark Raudonis] “Time of day timecode will create timecode breaks on every clip. I think that’s what he means. Within a clip? No. Between clips. Absolutely.”

no it was not time of day time code.

I was as shocked as anyone that there were time code breaks on a format that
is supposed to be bullet proof in that regard.

I think this was on a sony pdw-350 camera. maybe a firmware update or newer camera
will prevent this?

[Andy Mees]

Hey Chris

Yikes! So they changed the timecode whilst recording? Didn’t know you could do that (but if you can and do then surely thats operator error?). We’ve had a fair number of F350’s (about 50 all told) in daily use for the last two or three years … that’s many thousands of discs shot and whilst there have obviously been occasional issues I’d have to say that I’ve never had any report of a timecode break. Timecode breaks between clips, yes of course. Thats entirely normal with TOD recordings and not an issue (especially working tapeless as there is no linear capture across the break). Fingers crossed it all stays reasonably sane that way!

Andy