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  • T3I rendering VGA to TV

    Posted by Walter Blan on January 28, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    Hey all,

    Im working on a little project that I shot a couple of weeks ago. I used my Canon T3I (shoots in 1080HD and 25fps). I want to be able to show it on the bigscreen TV downstairs without using a DVD player (because that didn’t work out that great before). This time I am going to hook up my PC using VGA to the bigscreen TV.

    I am wondering which rendering settings and player (VLC player perhaps?) I should use for the best quality. I don’t want any quality loss.

    Settings used for new project: (matched to video)
    VIDEO
    – HD 1080-50i (1920×1080, 25.000 fps)
    – upper field first
    – pixel aspect: 1.0000 (Square)
    – output rotation: 0 (original)
    – frame rate: 25 PAL
    – stereoscopic off
    – pixel format: 32 bit floating point
    – full resolution rendering: best
    – Motion blur type: gaussian
    – Deinterlace method: none
    AUDIO
    – Stereo
    – Sample rate 48,000
    – bit depth 24
    – resample stretch quality: best

    John Rofrano replied 12 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    January 28, 2014 at 4:39 pm

    [Walter Blan] “This time I am going to hook up my PC using VGA to the bigscreen TV. “

    That still may give you poor quality. See if your TV has a DVI input, otherwise VGA may disappoint you.

    As for the format to render to, I would recommend MainConcept AVC with the Internet 1080p template. This should give you very good quality. If you are really worried about quality you should invest in a Blu-ray player and burner.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Walter Blan

    January 28, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    Thanks for your kind answer! Unfortunately the TV only has a VGA and HDMI input. Is there a lot of quality loss when using VGA? Thanks for your recommendation regarding the Mainconcept AVC, I’m going with that, looks great!

  • Norman Black

    January 28, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    I concur with JR, you will likely be disappointed with HD over VGA to the TV. Ideal with DVI or HDMI.

    Also, with a Canon DSLR be sure to make sure your levels are good. Canon DSLRs typically output full range and your encodes are probably going to want to be studio range (16-235).

  • John Rofrano

    January 28, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    [Walter Blan] “Is there a lot of quality loss when using VGA?”

    I’m guessing that it will look similar to SD TV. If you care about quality, you need to deliver HD over DVI or HDMI.

    BTW, how is your DVD connected to your HD TV? That will affect quality as well.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Walter Blan

    January 28, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Aw, well if it looks like regular standard-definition i’m definitely not going to use VGA, my plan was to use the VGA output on my computer and use a VGA-HDMI converter to plug it into the HDMI input of the TV.

    The DVD player is connected using SCART.

    I think i’m just going to render the video in the suggested settings and then drag my Iiyama PC monitor downstairs aswell, not as big as the TV but at least the quality will be good then.

    Considering the encodes and ‘full range’, I am really not sure what you mean by this. Is this something essential? How exactly do I make sure my levels are good?

  • Norman Black

    January 28, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    [Walter Blan] “my plan was to use the VGA output on my computer and use a VGA-HDMI converter”

    Worth a try if your PC does not have HDMI or Displayport output.

    [Walter Blan] “Considering the encodes and ‘full range’, I am really not sure what you mean by this. Is this something essential? How exactly do I make sure my levels are good?”

    Canon DSLRs output data full range, 0-255. Encodes expect studio swing data range, 16-235. Most media players will expand the data they receive from 16-235 to 0-255. What this means is that your contrast is increased and the blacks and highs get clipped. You may like this. You may not. We get a lot of forum complaints about crushed blacks and this is the source. You get around this by making sure your data in Vegas conforms to the studio RGB range.

    You can look at the waveform videoscope to verify your data is within limits. Take an area with good darks, bring up the videoscope, make sure the studio 16-235 video scope option is checked, and if anything goes below zero or above 100 your source data is outside the studio range.

    Using a sony levels with the computer to studio RGB preset will correct this.

  • John Rofrano

    January 29, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    [Walter Blan] “The DVD player is connected using SCART.”

    That’s part of the problem. I don’t know about PAL players but most modern NTSC DVD Players have HDMI outputs with an up-scaler that will convert SD to HD and it does a pretty good job. I mean, no one is going to be fooled into thinking it’s “real” HD but it looks a LOT better than regular SD if the original source was HD.

    I guess the bottom line is you need to invest in some HD equipment if you want HD playback.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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