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  • syncing sound and video in post from a smart slate

    Posted by Christian Vogeler on May 12, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    hello everyone I’m just getting started on a new edit project and the production used a smart slate. This will be my first time using one. Before I dive in to anything I wanted to know if anyone had any suggestions about how to sync video and sound using the jam sync. I know the smart slate is supports to make your life easier, so I would like to start this project out that way.

    Bouke Vahl replied 16 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 12, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    All you need to do is run the same timecode to each camera/deck you want to use and then on to the slate. They should all be set to record the same frame rates too.

    Jerry

    Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski.

    8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays

  • Matthew Bradshaw

    May 12, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Is a smart slate just one that has the time code from the audio recorder displayed on it? If so you could set the video aux time code so that it matches the visual code on the slate and then sync using that code. Or you could make a multi-clip using that code or merge clips using that code.
    Regards, Matt.

  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 12, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Yeah, if the audio and TC in it matches the slate, you’ll gain in syncing time for sure (don’t get around it however). All you need is TC out from that audio recorder.

    The slate is just a TC reading device.

    Jerry

  • Christian Vogeler

    May 12, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    shouldn’t the smart slate be jamed with the camera and the audio recorder so that both times codes match? so I should be able to merge clips using the time code option right? but I’ve been reading that FCP does not see audio time codes, is this true?

  • Michael Gissing

    May 13, 2010 at 12:15 am

    FCP will read broadcast wav files and their embedded timecode metadata.

    The slate should show the audio timecode. If the camera was running the same jam synced code then the video and audio files should have identical timecode.

    It is critical that the timecode type is identical on picture & audio. So frame rate and DF NDF should be the same on both sources. What is the frame rate & code type on both?

  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 13, 2010 at 11:02 am

    In an ideal world, yes. But the OP doesn’t seem to have a camera with TC in or out…

    Jerry

    Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski.

    8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays

  • Bouke Vahl

    May 13, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Two things you have missed:

    BWF does not work properly with FCP.
    In NTSC, BWF is intepreted always as NDF, even if you’re in a DF project.

    Next, to get LTC into FCP, you need this:
    https://www.videotoolshed.com/product/26/fcp-auxtc-reader

    It also has a helper application to merge BWF to QT, so you don’t have to select both video / audio and press ‘ merge ‘

    If you work like this, the smart slate is just a backup.

    On the topic of smart slates, there is also this:

    https://www.videotoolshed.com/product/38/digital-clapper-board/3

    It can be TC generator as well as slave.
    Smart slate for a fraction of the price…

    hth,

    Bouke

    https://www.videotoolshed.com/
    smart tools for video pros

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