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  • Syncing Dual System Audio after an Edit

    Posted by Tanner Field on May 15, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Hey Guys,

    I was recently brought on to a project to do some recutting of this half hour narrative. There is already a rough cut done of the project that the director did in Premiere CS5.5 using .r3d files. I began to go through the project and realized that they did dual system sound on set. However, the director never took the time to sync the audio from the 788 before cutting and just used the sound off of the reference mic they had on camera. To make it worse it looks as if they didn’t jam timecode either.

    So, now I’m looking at this timeline trying to figure out the fastest and least obtrusive way to backtrack and sync the good audio files to the clips we’re using, and then reconnect that to the timeline, but I’m at a bit of a loss. I was considering using Pluraleyes but fear that might just rip the whole timeline apart? Has anyone been in this situation before, or have an idea of how to clean up this mess? I’d really appreciate any insight!

    Best,
    Tanner

    Mathew Farrell replied 9 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    May 15, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    LOTS of people paint themselves into this corner. Mainly very inexperienced people…like that director of yours. This is why you hire people who know what they are doing. There are steps that need to be done BEFORE you start editing.

    First thing I’d suggest…well, I can’t as it is FCP only, and was written with this issue in mind: https://assistedediting.intelligentassistance.com/Sync-N-Link/

    Second thing…duplicate the sequence and then try PluralEyes. This way if anything is messed up…it’s messed up on the duplicate.

    If that doesn’t work…then you have a bit of a very tedious manual replacement of audio to do. Bill the client for this…every hour. If this is a low pay job…well, suggest that either they fix it, or you fix it. But you will charge to fix it. This is what happens when you do things on the cheap…things can be missed. MAJOR things.

    Shane
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  • Tom Daigon

    May 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    FYI a new version of Plural Eyes was released yesterday with one version specifically for running in PrP. I believe its free to use for 30 days. Might be worth a look.

    https://www.singularsoftware.com/pluraleyes.html

    Tom Daigon
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  • Dave Brandt

    May 15, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    I would suggest running singular software dual eyes on the sorce files and use its option to replace audio in video files with the good audio, it can write the new files to a specific directory, then relink media from premiere to new files, that should give you the good audio with least hassle. I have found dual eyes to be pretty accurate but I still check all the files before I import. Dual eyes is stand alone and won’t touch your sequence.

    Hope that helps

    Dave

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  • David Beard

    February 20, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Did you ever have any luck using this method. I’m pretty much in the same boat at the moment. I have a locked edit that I would like to replace camera audio with production audio. I have downloaded a trial of Pluraleyes, but I’m struggling to have it work for me. I have created a duplicate sequence and media managed in FCP, so I have all of my video clips in one folder, which makes it easy to bring into pluraleyes. Now, I’m stuck, because my production audio is not labeled well, is spread over multiple folders. When I try and bring all the audio files in from each day that a certain clip was shot, so that pluraleyes could hopefully find the right audio file, things just get crazy, and I can’t make out what is really happening once synchronizing has finished. My goal is to create new video files with the new production audio linked, and then have FCP reconnect to these files. Any thoughts?

    Thanks

  • Mathew Farrell

    November 30, 2016 at 3:57 am

    I’m resurrecting this, as I’m also in this same situation – though there have been lots of lines of code under the bridge since this question was first raised.

    Anyone know how to sync audio to a locked edit in PP elegantly?

    Mathew Farrell
    flowstate.com.au

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