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  • Sync issues after export…

    Posted by Logan Parks on January 8, 2009 at 10:04 am

    I am editing footage of a concert shot in HD 1440 x 1080. When I export it to 1280 x 720, w/ the media encoder in Premiere Pro CS3, a couple things happen that I don’t really like.

    The main problem I am having is that when I play it back the audio is in sync with the video until about 24 min when the video skips ahead a second or two. The audio is fine, but now the video is running about 2 seconds ahead for the remaining 20 mins of the concert.

    The other issue I may have solved, but I feel there is probably a better approach. The brightness/contrast/colors look great in Premiere, but on DVD it is really dark. I adjusted the levels as much as I felt I could get away with, w/o making it look too washed out. Ideally I would have some kind of video monitor, but without one there has to be a better technique than – Color Correct, Export, Author, Test on TV, and try again Right?

    Like I said I am more interested in preventing the sync issue from happenning again, but any answers, ideas, questions, suggestions, tips about completely unrelated stuff, is very much appreciated.

    Oh yea, almost forgot:

    HD720p.mp4
    Type: MPEG Movie
    File Size: 2.3 GB
    Image Size: 1280 x 720
    Pixel Depth: 1280
    Frame Rate: 23.976
    Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz – compressed – Stereo
    Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz – 32 bit floating point – Stereo
    Total Duration: 00:51:36:02
    Average Data Rate: 763 KB / second
    Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0

    Logan Parks replied 15 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Peter Berthet

    January 9, 2009 at 6:12 am

    I dont know for certain whats causing the problem, but to find out a bit more id suggest the following.

    Export out of PPRO into some sort of file format, and play it back. Assuming theres no sync problem there, bring the file into your authoring program.
    Play the file in the authoring program, if theres no sync problem then continue.

    That would at least help you figure out if premiere is doing it, or your authoring tool.

    As far as your colourgrading, no there is no easier way than hooking up a monitor to your edit system to check the pictures during the edit.

    ~Peter Berthet
    Sydney, Australia

  • Logan Parks

    January 9, 2009 at 7:51 am

    Thanks for helping out Peter. I guess a direct monitor would pay for itself in wasted DVD’s…eventually. I have decided that whatever the problem is, it happens while Premiere is exporting. I am dropping the entire exported clip into Encore, and from there it already has the sync issue. Everything is in sync in the timeline before export, so whatever it is it definately happens during export from Premiere.

    I am hoping that it is just some kind of fluke. I did some color correction, and am currently exporting again. I was told it might be better to export in its original 1440 x 1080 from Premiere and convert it to 1280 x 720 in Encore afterwards during authoring. I guess that will be quicker…or somehow better. Any ideas on that or any other input is appreciated.

  • Peter Berthet

    January 9, 2009 at 7:56 am

    if thats the case its entirely possible that the render files were corrupted, it doesnt happen often but its possible

    if it happens again try discarding your render files and re-rendering your timeline

    if you want a nice cheap monitoring system, pick up a 30cm CRT TV with an s-video input on it, most modern video cards have at least an s-video out
    that will allow you to get an idea of what the final product will look like on a conventional screen, its also a nice easy way to check fields!

    ~Peter Berthet
    Sydney, Australia

  • Jon Barrie

    January 9, 2009 at 9:01 am

    I have strong feeling your project settings are not matching your export settings. If you have a PAL (25fps) project and you just export assuming that first option/s from Media Encoder are going to match the frame rate of your project, chances are it’s some NTSC setting with a 29.97 frame rate. This will create some issues with sync.

    Make sure the project and export settings are at least the same.

    – JOn 🙂

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Frank Amsden

    March 5, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    With regard to the brightness differential, I’m having a similar problem. What makes this so frustrating is that I am using the same lcd monitor for both the Premiere program monitor as well as to view the encoded mpeg file after output. The picture within Premiere is nicely balanced but when viewed in media player after encoding, it’s dark and muddy. I have two lcd monitors and both exhibit the same results. The differential is so great that it is impossible to figure how much to compensate in Premiere so as to normalize the final. And I don’t know where to look. Is it Premiere? Media Encoder? or Media Player? I’m not at a stage where I can master a DVD or Blue Ray so I can’t test that. Does anyone have a thought about how I can get a handle on this?

  • Logan Parks

    March 6, 2011 at 2:42 am

    To be honest I can’t remember exactly what I did in the end. It was a couple years ago. If I had the same issue now I would just rely more on the Waveform Monitor to tell me how bright it really is.

    You might try exporting a few seconds of it to a different codec, and see if you don’t get the same results. Also try using something other than (Adobe?) Media Player to view the final export.

    You are comparing the original corrected footage in premiere to the encoded footage in Media Player right? Throw the encoded file back into Premiere, and see if that looks different played there. Hopefully that will help you narrow down where this issue is coming from. Good Luck!

    Logan

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