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  • James Ewart

    March 2, 2015 at 3:30 pm

    [Bret Williams] “A simple copy and paste insert would’ve been a better start.”

    I’ve got too much time on my hands. Quite interesting going back actually.

    For sure select clips – cut – paste insert and then delete the gap is tidier and much faster. With paste insert you don’t have to worry about anything bumping into or overwriting anything which the clip makes a bit of a hoo ha out of. (Correct me if I’m wrong here please). Perhaps you do have to make sure you have linked the audio to the relevant video clip first?

    What did we used to call gaps in the timeline BTW?

  • Bret Williams

    March 2, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    Gaps. You could also copy, then ripple delete key, then paste insert. In any app it’s going to require a bit of surgery unless you just happen to have the perfect situation. For example in X, connected clips makes for a great little video clip. But it can also be part of the problem. Clips are always connected. Whether they have anything to do with what’s in the primary or not. So you only have the choice to move connected clips or hold tilde and ignore connections. But what if I want the broll to come with, but not the sfx and graphics? The sfx and graphics might be then end of a section segueing into the next section. But the VO and broll might need to be rearranged together. This happens every day to me in corporate stuff. So you’re back to the old school days of selecting just the parts you want to move and doing a copy paste insert dance.

    But, as Robyn pointed out, in either case I’d say the best part of the magnetic timeline is the elimination of clip collisions. For me, doing a lot of layering, it’s more important vertically. I can move layers up and down without inserting tracks or worrying about accidentally deleting or eroding part of, a clip.

  • Walter Soyka

    March 2, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    [James Ewart] “With paste insert you don’t have to worry about anything bumping into or overwriting anything which the clip makes a bit of a hoo ha out of. (Correct me if I’m wrong here please).”

    But you do have to worry about splitting clips that intersect the playhead on the timeline. These would require healing.

    Walter Soyka
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  • Robin S. kurz

    March 2, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    [Bret Williams] “But what if I want the broll to come with, but not the sfx and graphics? The sfx and graphics might be then end of a section segueing into the next section. But the VO and broll might need to be rearranged together. “

    X, too, has Lift, Insert Paste etc. I don’t see how the solution would be any different or worse than e.g. in 7, if needed. Or I’m simply not understanding the actual issue. Because, in light of the above, I really don’t see one.

    – RK

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  • James Ewart

    March 2, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    [Bret Williams] “Gaps. You could also copy, then ripple delete key, then paste insert. In any app it’s going to require a bit of surgery unless you just happen to have the perfect situation. “

    Well option drag works for me. You could knock me down with a feather! Select the clips. Hold down option key and drag ’em back where you want ’em. Amazing. I never knew that. Everything just jumps out of the way. And on my old iMac the gaps get closed as well.

    A lot for the FCP7 shortcuts don’t seem to work any longer. Way off topic I know but ‘T’ no longer toggles shortage the select tracks options. f9, f10, f11 don’t work either.

  • James Ewart

    March 2, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “But you do have to worry about splitting clips that intersect the playhead on the timeline. These would require healing.”

    Good point thanks.

  • Robin S. kurz

    March 2, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    [James Ewart] “Well option drag works for me. You could knock me down with a feather! “

    Used it constantly, which is why I knew about the multiple clip issue… which drove me NUTS. And also why seeing the X timeline for the first time was a complete epiphany. I literally thought to myself “Why the hell has it not always worked this way i.e. since 1990??”

    [James Ewart] “A lot for the FCP7 shortcuts don’t seem to work any longer.”

    Have the same issue with newer OS versions and 7. At least in my case it’s because 7 appears to be ignoring that I’m using a german keyboard, so e.g. ⌘Z is in fact ⌘Y etc. No matter what I do with the prefs. Not that I even care anymore. Maybe it’s something similar with you and the english keyboard.

    – RK

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  • James Ewart

    March 2, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    It works for me with multiple clips also oddly.

  • Robin S. kurz

    March 2, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    [James Ewart] “It works for me with multiple clips also oddly.”

    Then try it as I described. Take 3 clips in V1, put another in V2 above the second one, THEN try option dragging the two middle ones to the beginning of the timeline, i.e. in front of the first.

    See what I mean?

    – RK

    ____________________________________________________
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  • Robin S. kurz

    March 2, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    Spoiler alert:

    turns into

    – RK

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