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SVP-8 curious rendering problem
Happy Sony Vegas Pro 8 user for going on two years now. Been editing, rendering, authoring and burning to DVD and all has been good. I am happy with the results. Here is the workflow: source files on an external hard drive, edit in SVP8, render to MPEG-2, take the rendered file home and author/burn the DVD. This has worked fine for me for many months. No matter what DVD player or computer I put the disc in to play it, no matter what disc media I used, no matter what authoring program, all DVD functions work. Now a problem. I moved to a different computer with SVP-8 and did all the same things, but when authored and burned, the DVD will not seek, rewind, or fast forward. Again, this is no matter what player/computer, no matter what media/authoring program. Take the same show source and veggie files to the original computer, render there, etc., and I’m back to normal. The only varilable is what particular computer installation of SVP-8 I use for rendering. I have looked at and changed around the custom MP2 render settings until I’m dizzy, but they all look the same. Still, I might be missing something. So my question is: What rendering parameter (if there is one) controls the DVD ability to skip ahead or rewind back within a chapter?
I would have said impossible, that it’s the player or the media, but I have ruled that out by experimentation. I have spent weeks searching the forums an hour or so at a time, and most DVD playback problems have to do with the player or the media. That’s why I started by varying those. Sometimes a disc that’s unplayable on a particular player will be playable on another, but many times playback on the computer used for rendering will be the only “good” playback. Not so with this problem. The computer or playback program crashes when I try to use the progrss bar to scrub forward or backward. More details to follow, in answer to your kind replies and quiries for more details.
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When you say “seek, rewind, or fast forward”, I’m guessing you mean next and previous chapters on the DVD. Which means you must check the box that says something like “save project markers in rendered file” when you render to mpeg-2 in VP8.
Only a guess here, but it might be the problem.
Jeff
Windows 7 64-bit, ASUS P6X58D, i7 960 3.20GHz, 24.0GB DDR3, 12TB connected storage
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Hi Jeff, thanks for the reply. And thank you to all who have posted in the CC forums. A wealth of information, and well-moderated. A jewel of forums.
Reply to your post: Actually not. Chapters work. That’s why I said “within a chapter” in my post. But it was a long post… with many words…
So for example, you are watching chapter 2, and you want to fast forward to a certain part, or rewind to see something again or frame by frame, etc. This either doesn’t work on the player (although the prompt says “3x” or “8x” or whatever), or it crashes the player – some players are better than others. Watching the DVD on a computer, sliding the progress bar (as in scrubbing forward or backward) either hangs the player program or crashes the computer, depending on the program/computer.
And yes, these functions work on the unauthored MPEG-2 file itself. And yes, I have tried various authoring software, but the key troubleshooting detail for me was that the same project, when rendered to MPEG-2 on the “old” computer with SVP8, then authored/burned to DVD on any computer I tried, worked flawlessly. Which is why I think it must be a render setting in SVP8 on the “new” computer.
Thanks again for the reply. I feel like Sherlock Holmes, or Watson at least. These are not problems, but mysteries to be solved.
Howard
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Now that’s very interesting…
Could it be that your mpeg renderer has been inadvertently replaced by a freeware or hack ware version? Most all of the codec packs have poor quality renerers in them. They will trash your Vegas installation and can be very hard to remove or recover from.
I would take a look at installed codecs and start comparing the good machine with the other.
You just might find an issue.
Jeff
Windows 7 64-bit, ASUS P6X58D, i7 960 3.20GHz, 24.0GB DDR3, 12TB connected storage
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Now that makes a lot of sense. I hadn’t thought about that. Thank you Jeff. I’ll let you know how it turns out.
Howard
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If I understand what you’ve written correctly, you’ve taken the exact files generated by your “good” computer and put them on “another” computer and the resulting DVD burned doesn’t work exactly the same.
If so, have you looked at the problem being the DVD burner of the “other” computer. I’ve seen differences in how well and what players a DVD will play when burned by the two different DVD burners I’ve used. Sometimes there are firmware updates that can be downloaded and applied from the DVD manufacturer’s website that address issues like this.
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No, what I got out of it was, he rendered on computer “A” and burned on computer “C”, everything is normal. When he renders on computer “B” and burns on “C” it fails. So, I think there is a problem on computer “B”, the new one. Check me if I’m wrong…
Jeff
Windows 7 64-bit, ASUS P6X58D, i7 960 3.20GHz, 24.0GB DDR3, 12TB connected storage
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Hi Andrew, and thanks for the response. Jeff has it right. Why couldn’t I have simply stated it that way from the beginning?
Rendered on computer “A” and burned on computer “C”, everything is normal. Rendered on computer “B” and burned on “C” it fails. So, I think there is a problem on computer “B”. Process of elimination.
BTW: I don’t see an “edit” button on my original post, or I’d add the above paragraph to avoid confusion.
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I don’t think CC allows edit until you’re an admin.
Windows 7 64-bit, ASUS P6X58D, i7 960 3.20GHz, 24.0GB DDR3, 12TB connected storage
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Thanks Jeff. At least I know it isn’t a browser setting. I will wait and marked it solved then when it is solved.
Looking forward to working on that computer again probably tomorrow. If your solution proves correct, it probably means a re-install, unless I can fix it by uninstalling the codec pack that may have corrupted the Vegas ones. Or maybe I can download and replace just the corrupted MPEG-II template and associated codecs, but I have not been successful in my searches.
The Sony Creative Software website has only the 8.0c bug fix available for download for SVP-8, but I might as well re-install the 8.0 I have if it comes to that, before I muddy the waters with an update on top of corrupted codecs (if it turns out that truly is the problem).
Howard
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Worked on the problem computer yesterday. The third-party codec pack had installed some toolbars and other things, in spite of my selecting custom install and de-selecting all but the codec pack. I removed the nasties. Still, I had the problem of not being able to seek/rewind within a chapter on a burned DVD.
So I tried rendering out to AVI and WMV, authoring from those (which required the authoring program to transcode/remultiplex of course, which took time, but I had time*). Those DVD discs worked just fine. So I next started with the DVD NTSC template, made custom settings for higher quality, saved that template, and rendered from that. The DVD discs burned from that render worked fine as well.
*Since I had limited time, I had made a short (less than 3 minute) project to use for testing purposes. I will next (probably the middle of the upcoming week) use the new custom template to render the longer program I was having trouble with in the first place. I need to do that before marking this problem solved. I do think I am making progress, and I thank Jeff for suggesting I look beyond SVP custom settings for the solution.
Howard
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