SUPER Slow Motion in SMS9

[Mike Kujbida]

Here’s two suggestions for you.

The first is to shoot it with as high a shutter speed as the available light will allow you to do.
I shot some race cars at the Detroit Gran Prix a number of years ago.
It was a bright sunny day so I had my shutter at 1/2000.
Slow motion was crystal clear, to the point where I could see the tire tread instead of it being a blur.
I’ve also shot hummingbirds this way and the wings can now be seen instead of being a blur.

The second involves using a nested veg.
Load a clip onto the timeline, slow it down as much as possible, save it as a veg file, import this veg file (now called a nested veg), add it to the timeline and slow it down again.
Because you’re not actually rendering it out, there’s no image quality loss.
Repeat again if necessary.

[John Rofrano]

The second involves using a nested veg.

Unfortunately he is using Movie Studio 9 which doesn’t support nested projects. It would have been more obvious had he spelled out SMS9 as Sony Movie Studio 9. 😉

The other option, of course, is to render the slow-mo footage, bring it back into Movie Studio and slow it down again. Repeat as necessary.

~jr

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[Jamie Moore]

The sutter speed was @ 1/6000 I believe.. I’m not sure that that makes any difference in reference to the slow motion..Or does it?

Man, I have to render then slow down again.. Not a ton of work but what a PITA..

What form should I render to keep the best quality of the clip?? The final desination is a short video…Maybe I’d only have ro render once and reslow it down to achieve a little more slow motion

[John Rofrano]

Man, I have to render then slow down again.. Not a ton of work but what a PITA..

If you had the Pro version you could add a velocity envelope and slow it down 12x. Then if that wasn’t enough you could do as Mike said and drop it into another project as a nested project and slow it down 12x again (which is 12 x 12 = 144x!) Usually one nesting is slow enough or in your case just the 12x might be slow enough.

What form should I render to keep the best quality of the clip?? The final desination is a short video…Maybe I’d only have ro render once and reslow it down to achieve a little more slow motion

If you just have to render once you can render back to HDV. If you needed multiple renders I would suggest using Cineform but I realize that as a Movie Studio user Cineform cost more than Movie Studio probably did ($99 USD).

You could render to Huffyuv or Lagarith. Both of those codecs are free and lossless so you can re-render all you want and not loose quality. The trade-off is that they render extremely large files because they keep all of the quality. You can Google for them. Once installed the will show up under Video for Windows after pressing the Custom button (that’s assuming the Custom button will work in Movie Studio because I know it’s grayed out sometimes)

~jr

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[Jamie Moore]

You guys are great.. Really appreciate the info.. I’ll install the lagarith codec and give it a try.. I do have the custom options in Movie Studio Platinum 9 Pro which is specifically what I have.. If not I’ll try just rendering the clip then putting it back in..

Sounds like my desires for certain features is already reaching its limits in SMS…

[John Rofrano]

Sounds like my desires for certain features is already reaching its limits in SMS…

Well… you do have a $2,000+ FX1 prosumer camera… I think it might be time to spring for the equivalent software. 🙂

~jr

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[Edward Troxel]

[John Rofrano] “If you had the Pro version you could add a velocity envelope and slow it down 12x.”

Speeding up can go up to 12x. Slowing down, a single Velocity envelope can slow down to 0% (freeze frame).

Edward Troxel

[Jamie Moore]

haha.. I get the same response when I pull the FX1 out of a duffle bag..

Can I pick your brain for two more items..

1) Regarding color corrections- I assume that I should do no color corrections to the small, rendered clip, until the composition is complete and the entire edit is finalized and corrected, correct?

2)When I rendered the small clip then applied the additional slow motion I get a ton of blurryness when the pigs move..I’m not sure if its just the preview or if thats the way it will render in the final process. Is there a way to smooth that with that I have?

[John Rofrano]

Speeding up can go up to 12x. Slowing down, a single Velocity envelope can slow down to 0% (freeze frame).

lol, what was I thinking? You’re right Ed, in fact, a velocity can slow it down past zero into backwards! 😉 Thanks for the correction.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

1) Regarding color corrections- I assume that I should do no color corrections to the small, rendered clip, until the composition is complete and the entire edit is finalized and corrected, correct?

Yes, I would leave color correcting until after the slow-mo.

2)When I rendered the small clip then applied the additional slow motion I get a ton of blurryness when the pigs move..I’m not sure if its just the preview or if thats the way it will render in the final process. Is there a way to smooth that with that I have?

Make sure that your preview is set to best Full in order to see what the final video will look like more accurately. If you still see blurring, it may be the blending of frames to get more frames that didn’t exist to make it play slower. This is unavoidable.

~jr

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