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[Debbie King] “Thank you for the advise on separating the audio files into separate tracks. It was tedious, but I have much more control over what’s on the timeline.”
You’re welcome. Don’t forget that Vegas Pro has the ability to group tracks so you can place multiple dialog tracks for a particular scene into a group and then collapse that group to get it out of your way while you are editing other parts of the movie. This has no affect on the sound but is a lot easier on the eyes when trying to work on a large project. You can also mute and solo groups so groups are a nice way of isolating a particular set of tracks while you work.
~jr
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Hi John:
Wow. What a difference. I was feeling a bit overwhelmed scrolling through all of those tracks. This is really great. Thank you.
Best,
Debbie
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Hello Everyone:
Do you think that RX3 would be able to get rid of the metallic sound that a noise removal plugin has caused, or would I need to start from scratch?
Many thanks,
Debbie
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Start from scratch. As has already been mentioned above, when using Sony Sound Forge Noise Reduction, you have to do several passes with only a small % at a time. Thanks to the Sony contributors/users tipping me off about that, I have been doing that for years already. e.g. if you wanted to reduce by 25%, then you need to do 5 x passes of 5% each.
I once did that for an entry into the annual Australian Tropest Film Contest. The last pass had only the slightest trace of the Dalek sound in it, but I could tell. I called in my two young adult kids, both singers and musos and with really fussy and accurate ears. They liked all the passes except the last – they could pick the Dalek.
I sent them all to the project owner. Guess which version of the soundtrack the owner chose?
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Thank you Neil:
So you are saying that I should be able to accomplish this in Sony Sound Forge? What about Audacity?
My challenge is that some of the noise is with the dialogue. So although I cleaned around it, when the speaker speaks I hear a slight hiss.
Thank you for the info.
Many thanks,
Debbie
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[Debbie King] “Wow. What a difference. I was feeling a bit overwhelmed scrolling through all of those tracks. This is really great. Thank you.”
You’re welcome. Glad that helped. Group Tracks Rock! 😉
~jr
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[Debbie King] “Do you think that RX3 would be able to get rid of the metallic sound that a noise removal plugin has caused, or would I need to start from scratch?”
That sound is caused by dialog being deleted. You can never get that back so as Neil said, you need to start from scratch. I good trick is to listen to just the noise. Most plug-ins have a switch to check what’s being removed. If you can hear dialog in the removed noise, you have removed too much.
[Debbie King] “So you are saying that I should be able to accomplish this in Sony Sound Forge? What about Audacity?”
Sound Forge comes with the Sony Noise Reduction plug-in which was sold separately at one time for a few hundred dollars. It is way better than Audacity but not as good as iZotope RX.
~jr
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Thanks John and Neil:
I was experimenting and went back to the original audio that was not altered and dubbed it with the other metallic version. The dialogue was pumped up and I cannot hear the metallic sound. What I am thinking is that I can use the noise reduction software to remove the hiss and hums from the original and keep both tracks since the dialogue is more audible. My original problem was that the dialogue was recorded low, and when I raised the volume or normalized the file, a lot of noise was heard. I took the normalized file dropped it into Audacity and removed the surrounding noise which resulted in loss of dialogue under water sound.
Many thanks,
Debbie
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Debbie, I’m not familiar with that book but Jay Rose is well respected so anything by him will be good.
Another book that I’ve heard great things about is Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures: A Guide to the Invisible Art by John Purcell. It was just published last year so it’s very current.
https://www.amazon.com/Dialogue-Editing-Motion-Pictures-Invisible/dp/0415828171/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1394073106&sr=1-2
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