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  • Subtitles for FCP – ideal settings

    Posted by Dan Mcguire on August 20, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Folks,

    I’m editing a documentary on FCP 7.0.2 that includes several foreign language speakers. These clips need to be subtitled. Several questions:

    1. What are the ideal settings for NTSC 4:3 subtitles? Is there a broadcast standard? I’d like to hear opinions:

    Font
    Color
    Drop shadow (Y/N)
    Opacity of DS (#)
    Maximum amount of words or characters per subtitle (#)

    2. I can copy and paste the attribute of drop shadow, but not the attribute of font, font size, or font color – correct? Or can you batch change the fonts and their colors?

    Thanks for help.

    DMCG

    Dan Mcguire replied 15 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • John Fishback

    August 20, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Each broadcaster may have their own requirements so be sure to check with them. Here’s a link to Automatic Sync Technologies/ that has a lot of good general info re titling on their site.

    John

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  • Dan Mcguire

    August 21, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Ok, but I don’t see on this site and answer to any of my questions – is there a more specific link?

    Thanks
    DMCG

  • Dan Mcguire

    August 21, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    this is from a BBC website:

    As a general rule, subtitles:

    * Must consist of no more than three lines;
    * Must contain no more than 32 characters in each line;
    * Must be centred at the bottom of the video clip; and
    * Should include colours to distinguish speakers from each other – namely, white, yellow, cyan and green.

    still would like to know font type and size!

  • John Fishback

    August 21, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    I don’t remember where I saw the info. Check the Support FAQs and Resources tab. I used AST for Flash subtitling and searched all over the site for information. They definitely have recommendations for things like font, # of characters per line, etc.

    John

    MacPro 8-core 2.8GHz 8 GB RAM OS 10.5.8 QT7.6.4 Kona 3 Dual Cinema 23 ATI Radeon HD 3870, 24″ TV-Logic Monitor, ATTO ExpressSAS R380 RAID Adapter, PDE enclosure with 8-drive 6TB RAID 5
    FCS 3 (FCP 7.0.2, Motion 4.0.2, Comp 3.5.2, DVDSP 4.2.2, Color 1.5.2)

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  • Bouke Vahl

    August 22, 2010 at 9:58 am

    This sounds more like subtitling for the deaf.
    Normal subtitles have a max of two lines, and are white with a black outline.
    4:3 is normally left alligned, for NTSC font size 38.

    Fonts are highly subject to taste, but in any case, use a sans-serif, condensed font.
    No more than 42 chars on a line, and keep read speed good.
    (Rule of thumb, read them OUT LOUD while their on. If you can’t make it, shorten the text.)

    There is no way that i know to paste attributes on text generators.

    And if you are going to subtitle in your timeline, you’re nuts. (unless it’s just a few titles.)

    Check out Subbits from my site. It has a learning curve, but it will save you tons of time.
    You can do a roundtrip with XML to get the titles from FCP and back.

    BUT, there is a major bug in FCP 7.02. Line breaks on XML export are gone.
    (On XML import in FCP they do work.)

    Bouke

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  • Dan Mcguire

    August 22, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Thank you for this – great information.
    DAN

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