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  • Subclips, markers, and wireframe

    Posted by Dino on April 10, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    I’m stumped. Problem with subclips in a giant project.

    System is a dual core 2.0 G5, 4 GB RAM, OS X 10.4.11, QT 7.6, FCP 6.0.5.

    Project is NTSC DV anamorphic. Sources are DV anamorphic, DV, and DV50 anamorphic. Most tapes are captured in large chucks and sub-clipped. Subclips of 4:3 material have been pre-stretched to fill an anamorphic frame. All clips and subclips have lots of markers on them. Problem, sources started exhibiting a green box around them that shows in the viewer. It looks like the wireframe box but isn’t. Once a subclip takes this behavior, it is no longer possible to add markers to the clip. Tested in a new project with only one master clip and one sequence. Made a subclip and started playing with it and was able to replicate the problem quickly. See below for what the box looks like. Nothing I do makes that box go away.

    I’ve exhaustively searched the internet for clues. Found one other instance of someone with apparently the same problem. No resolution mentioned. Please help.

    John Pale replied 17 years ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    April 10, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Hi Dino,
    [Dino Sanacory] ” Subclips of 4:3 material have been pre-stretched to fill an anamorphic frame. “
    I don’t understand this. What do you mean by pre-stretched?
    To make a 4×3 clip fit – and fill- in a 16×3 screen (without distort it) the only way I know is to crop it.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • John Pale

    April 10, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    This is a safe title overlay. Is it turned on in FCP? If it’s turned off and you still see it, its embedded in the video…not being generated by FCP.

    Please explain how you “pre-stretched” the clips to fill an anamorphic frame. Tell us the exact methodology.

  • Dino

    April 10, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    pre-stretched?

    In the motion tab, scale to 133 and distort at 33. This stretches to fill the frame horizontally and pushes the top and bottom out of the frame to maintain the proper aspect for placing 4:3 material in a 16:9 frame. This is done directly to the subclip rather than the clip in a sequence. Individual subclips are tweaked for the best horizontal placement. By doing this ahead of time (with the cheaper labor of an assistant editor) the editor doesn’t have to worry about having to constantly adjust clips as the editing progresses. My personal preference would be to not worry about this until they are closer to a fine cut but the director doesn’t like seeing half the shots with side bars.

    Regarding the frame being a title safe marker. I realize the image I posted doesn’t show it well (I’d get another one but I’m not at the location) the picture fills the entirety of the frame, the gray is actually the background of Final Cut. the green lines sort of make sense as the wireframe boundaries, except they’re not. You can see on the right edge that the box is inside the edge of the picture. I would chalk it up to a bad bug, I’m just hoping to find some confirmation and a nice workaround.

  • Rafael Amador

    April 10, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    I think your director is complicating your life.
    Just drop the 4×3 footage in a 16×9 sequence and move them up or down as you like.
    And I don’t understand what is that green frame doing on top of the grey.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Dino

    April 10, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Exactly, what is that green frame? I didn’t put it there. It definitely doesn’t belong there and I can’t get it to go away. Anybody seen this before?

  • John Pale

    April 10, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    I thought perhaps he stretched the 4:3 stuff to 16:9 in another program, like Motion or After Effects, and rendered a safe title grid into the image accidentally. I had a graphics guy do that to me by mistake once.

    Apparently I was a wrong.

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