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  • sub-clips vs. independent clips

    Posted by J. Tad newberry on June 23, 2007 at 8:30 pm

    i had several hours of HDCam footage captured at a post house and dumped to my external drives. i’m now going to start editing, but first want to break these long clips up for easier management. from reading the manual, and a little experimentation, it seems that making subclips is the way to go (also since i will be going back to the post house to dump to an HDCam master tape), so not really sure of the need or importance for “independent clips”. when would you all use them??

    Russell Lasson replied 18 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • J. Tad newberry

    June 23, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    major frustration! i’ve created a test project for testing all of this. grabbing some long clips, then making a few sub clips, etc., deleting the original source media, then going back into the project to batch capture. so far, i have not been able to recapture ANYTHING. FCP goes through the motions of telling me it is about to grab a 3 second clip (a subclip of the source file), or grab the entire source file (depending on what i have chosen to batch capture).

    every time it goes to the inpoint, starts rolling and “capturing”, but it never stops. goes way beyond the out point (like several minutes) until i hit “escape”, and then nothing is captured.

    i’m testing this on a test project before doing anything to my HDCam material…

  • J. Tad newberry

    June 23, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    aha! i’m thinking out loud here, and you all have the privilege of hearing a pea-brain in motion…(most of you have probably already discovered what i share below)…

    i figured out why there was not outpoint to my re-captures from the last post: i was trying to capture in a codec (DVCPro HD) that i cannot use with the system i currently have. as soon as i tried recapturing in NTSC 10 bit, 8 bit, DV, whatever, they all worked. Glory Be! that issue solved…but it would be nice if FCP would just alert me to this problem instead of pretending to capture : )

    i then played with subclip names and recapturing and found that FCP recaptures nicely ONLY the media asked for in a subclip, BUT the system wants to name these new source files the same as the original. so, if you have more than one subclip from an old source file (even if you’ve renamed it in FCP, which we know has nothing to do with the name of the source file), it will say you are trying to capture a file with a duplicate name. i can then just add an “a, b, c, etc.” or “1,2,3…” whatever after that original source name and everything is captured fine.

    OR, when it tells you there are additional files to be captured and you have the choice of “add” “continue” or “abort”, if you say “add”, you’ll get the entire original source file in its’ entirety, and all the subclips then appear in your browser as well. this makes total sense, but you end up with more media than is needed, but at least everything is there and with the proper names.

    my next step would be experiment more with Media Manager . . .

  • Russell Lasson

    June 25, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    [mortimer heathcliff] “my next step would be experiment more with Media Manager . . . “

    Media Manager can handle this workflow better than what you did. There are several different ways of doing what you want though and it looks like you figured out one of them.

    -Russ

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