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Strategy for Syncing for Feature in X
Oliver Peters replied 11 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 18 Replies
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David Mcclellan
November 17, 2014 at 6:30 amThanks, yeah I have most of the sound files relabeled as their proper take at this point which I’ve done manually at the folder level. I’ve done this many times before but never in X. I will definitely try that suggestion of doing the sync in X. The synced files are just basically compound clips though right? I just shut off the camera scratch audio and edit the synced compound clips in the timeline like normal.
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Eric Santiago
November 17, 2014 at 1:34 pmSpent a few days syncing 800+ R3Ds with 800+ WAV files using FCPX Sync option.
It was maybe 80% bang on.
The flow went straight into Resolve 11 (numerous fails here) then to Avid.
I am confident that in FCPX the audio was synced.
But I was told that it wasnt in Avid.
I could have checked but at this point, I was done with this one.
Next time, sync with TimeCode.
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Oliver Peters
November 17, 2014 at 2:22 pm[Eric Santiago] “The flow went straight into Resolve 11 (numerous fails here) then to Avid.
I am confident that in FCPX the audio was synced.
But I was told that it wasnt in Avid.”I’ve had lots of trouble with every translation in and out of FCP X. Your experience sounds familiar. Audio issues often stem from sample rate.
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Nicholas Kleczewski
November 17, 2014 at 4:39 pmOne thing I really like doing, is taking advantage of X’s scrubbing power over clicking from clip to clip. So Ill put an entire scene, day, or whatever makes sense into a big multicam clip, then drop a few markers as quick jump to’s. This also kinda helps in X as the sync’ing can’t be done in the background. So you can set up something big and step away for a few (many) minutes, depending on how much you have to sync.
Unlike Plural Eyes, Ive found you get quicker results if you line up your video and audio to at least be somewhat “in the zone” It seems like FCP has an unseen window of heads and tails it tries to look for quickly to sync a clip, if its there, then great it syncs extremely quick. If its far away it seems to resort to some kind of mode where it then analyzes the entire track, or at least something is going on that can make it take way longer.
In general I like sticking with multicam clips to sync with, even if its not multicam. Theres some nice compound clip like advantages to be had if your ever working on a really complicated job and say, want color correction to instantly ripple to the 30 different projects the shot lies. Just add the effect once to the clip inside the multicam and viola, its rippled everywhere.
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David Mcclellan
November 18, 2014 at 6:04 amI am about a third of the way through with my synch. All done in X. Workflow seems very intuitive and so far everything has been spot on including multi angle takes and stuff that was unable to sync in Plural Eyes 3.5.
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Oliver Peters
November 18, 2014 at 1:28 pmJust remember that syncing by audio can often result in your audio being out of sync with picture. That’s because many cameras record out of sync anywhere from a fraction of a frame to up to 2 frames out. Slate and TC will usually be more accurate. FCP legacy used to have a DVX100 plugin to offset camera audio because of this.
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David Mcclellan
November 18, 2014 at 3:55 pmYeah it’s in sync – so far no drift even on long takes and even if it’s out of sync by a frame or two that is an easy fix. I have several shots that need to be flipped 180 – and that can’t be done AFAIK in the browser. So for those I have to put the sync’d shots in a timeline – apply the 180 flip on the clip and then re-compound that clip. Other than that the sync is going well.
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Oliver Peters
November 18, 2014 at 4:55 pm[David McClellan] “flipped 180 – and that can’t be done AFAIK in the browser.”
Open the clip with “open in timeline”, rotate 1080 in the transform controls in the inspector.
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