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Stirring the pot…
Posted by Bill Davis on June 12, 2016 at 4:56 amIt’s way too quiet here.
So here’s a link to my latest XinTwo blog post…
https://www.xintwo.com/now-you-can-edit-faster-and-produce-better-work/Surely it’s provocative enough to encourage others to respond about how insufferably lame it is – thus sparking a spirited discussion we can all enjoy!
Just trying to help…
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.Walter Soyka replied 9 years, 11 months ago 12 Members · 46 Replies -
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Oliver Peters
June 12, 2016 at 12:11 pmAll I can say is that the guy in the stock photo is asking for trouble with his coffee cup. Keyboard or lap. Only two choices.
🙂– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Bill Davis
June 12, 2016 at 5:25 pmWhile replacing the screen caps with my XinTwo content, we probably should have replaced the coffee cup with a small bowl of mixed nuts….
On second thought, carrot sticks.
God forbid I imply a high fat diet is required for quality editing!
; )
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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David Mathis
June 12, 2016 at 5:39 pmYou could go with some high octane beer but that edit session could get interesting.
I don’t think your post was lame and I actually enjoyed reading it. Look forward to more of your content. Cheers!
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Claude Lyneis
June 12, 2016 at 7:42 pmI have also come to the realization that the pre-edit in the browser with fairly precise in and out markers and keywording is the way to go in FCPX. It is really a different approach than the string out that I used in 7 and what I still see being recommended for other NLE like PP. I took me too long to figure this out and relearn editing, but it really makes the early editing less painful and then the right smart collection gives you a great start for an assembly.
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Herb Sevush
June 13, 2016 at 12:30 pmRemoving the eye blink when you first review your material may foster some kind of efficiency but only at the cost of making an important decision out of context – maybe the blink is a key to character, not merely something to be avoided as an ironclad rule of editing.
The most important task of an editor is to become as familiar with their material as possible – and that means all their material, the good, the bad, the seemingly pointless; so when the time comes to make a decision “in context” you have all your options open, having committed to nothing. “No wine before it’s time”, no decision made before you have to; it is only during the process of editing that any moment’s importance will be revealed – “deciding the spine is the process of editing.”
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Bill Davis
June 13, 2016 at 3:23 pmAgain, Herb the way you imagine editing in X is not the way it actually works.
In my example, I was trying to create a relatable description of any situation where there may be an obvious “starting place” for an in-point decision.
If the editors preference is to include such a blink, he or she certainly can do that.
I’ll also contend that many experienced editors, having reviewed their material thoroughly, will instinctively remember that the pre-trimmed take they are using “in the moment” includes that eye blink that they previously elected to trim – and in a quick unconscious action will simply ripple the cut to reveal it the instant they call the scene to their playhead.
In my experience, many, many editors are really smart that way.
X does not require you to make your decisions the way it wants you to – it enables you to make the decisions you prefer to make, store them as precise decisions accessible via keyword tags – and adjust them as precisely as you like once they arrive in your storyline.
It’s not a restrictive system. no matter how you try to cast it as that. In practice, it’s the complete opposite of restrictive.
My 2 cents.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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Michael Hancock
June 13, 2016 at 3:40 pm[Bill Davis] “It’s not a restrictive system. no matter how you try to cast it as that. In practice, it’s the complete opposite of restrictive.
“I would add to that, it’s not a restrictive system in exactly the same way as all other NLEs are not restrictive. Because none of them are, really. It’s just a matter of how you use them.
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Bill Davis
June 13, 2016 at 4:26 pm[Michael Hancock] “[Bill Davis] “It’s not a restrictive system. no matter how you try to cast it as that. In practice, it’s the complete opposite of restrictive.
”I would add to that, it’s not a restrictive system in exactly the same way as all other NLEs are not restrictive. Because none of them are, really. It’s just a matter of how you use them.
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Michael Hancock
Editor”Yes, yes.
We all know that X is annoying because is so different from anything that’s come before it – causing years of “hair on fire” consternation and woe – and yet, miraculously, still everything IT can do- is fully and utterly possible in every other NLE.
It’s the FCP X conundrum.
Very different, yet NOT AT ALL different – at precisely the same time!
Quite amazing, really.
; )
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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Herb Sevush
June 13, 2016 at 4:35 pm[Bill Davis] “We all know that X is annoying because is so different from anything that’s come before it – causing years of “hair on fire” consternation and woe – and yet, miraculously, still everything IT can do- is fully and utterly possible in every other NLE.”
We all know that X is simple and instinctive to use and yet it takes months to “get your head around”, fortunately for Mr. Davis, who is expecting a windfall of profits for being ahead in the learning curve of the easiest of all NLE’s to learn.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Herb Sevush
June 13, 2016 at 4:42 pm[Bill Davis] “Again, Herb the way you imagine editing in X is not the way it actually works.”
I wasn’t talking about the way X works, but rather about your description of your own workflow. You put a premium on storing edit “decisions” before you begin to edit. Now obviously any NLE will allow you to change your mind and access material you might have discarded at some point, and so my observation about editing are tool agnostic, I’m simply suggesting that delaying decision making might be more important for your projects health than you might think.
The more intelligent the species, generally speaking, the longer the maturation age of the individual — perhaps there is something lost by going too fast.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
\”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf
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