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  • still some flicker from compressor

    Posted by Mark Wilkinson on October 21, 2009 at 2:29 am

    i have been testing for many hours and overall i am getting some good results converting footage from the PD 150 in to progressive. but… there are still a few areas with very distracting flicker. mainly when there is a pan up and down that runs over horizontal lines. there must be a way to tackle these suckers. i was playing around with the anti-alias and details sliders but after checking with the manual, looks like those are only for resizing issues. i have also just been going back to the DV NTSC codec, animation didnt seem to add much except file size.

    here is one spot that has been very persistent:

    https://www.headwatersdesign.com/test.mov

    somewhat ugly in the lower left, no ?

    Daniel Low replied 16 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Mark Wilkinson

    October 21, 2009 at 3:20 am

    i should mention that the final destination for this file is playback through VLC on a Mac laptop to a projector.

  • Daniel Low

    October 21, 2009 at 10:30 am

    Have you applied any deinterlacing in frame controls?

    __________________________________________________________________
    “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance.”
    Steve Ballmer To USA Today: 30 April 2007

    “We and Apple are neck and neck and we’re chasing the two
    other players,”
    Steve Ballmer, referring to Nokia and Research in Motion. October 6th 2009

  • Mark Wilkinson

    October 21, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    yes, and i have tried both better and best. the deinterlacing got rid of a huge portion of the jaggies and as i say, a lot of it looks good, there are just these one or two areas where it sticks out.

  • Daniel Low

    October 21, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Try using a frame size of 856×480, then both sides are equally divisible by 8, which is an important rule to follow.

    __________________________________________________________________
    “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance.”
    Steve Ballmer To USA Today: 30 April 2007

    “We and Apple are neck and neck and we’re chasing the two
    other players,”
    Steve Ballmer, referring to Nokia and Research in Motion. October 6th 2009

  • Mark Wilkinson

    October 21, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    thats a number i havent seen. i have seen 853 and 854.

    the flicker is in the source but i tried that number and it does look better overall. thanks for that…

  • Daniel Low

    October 21, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    One rule of thumb with video is to never ever use odd number frame size dimensions.

    The next rule is to aim for a frame size with both sides equally divisible by 16, if that’s not possible, aim for 8.

    __________________________________________________________________
    “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance.”
    Steve Ballmer To USA Today: 30 April 2007

    “We and Apple are neck and neck and we’re chasing the two
    other players,”
    Steve Ballmer, referring to Nokia and Research in Motion. October 6th 2009

  • Mark Wilkinson

    October 21, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    thanks for your help with this ( and the other compressor issue ). the 856 stuff does look better. strange that even the apple presets aren’t 856…

  • Daniel Low

    October 21, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    [mark wilkinson] “strange that even the apple presets aren’t 856… “

    Much as I love Apple, they can’t even come out with a decent H.264 CODEC, theirs being one of the lowest quality and performing ones out there.

    P.S. Never rely on a preset unless they are from these guys:

    https://www.compressorpack.com/overview.php

    __________________________________________________________________
    “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance.”
    Steve Ballmer To USA Today: 30 April 2007

    “We and Apple are neck and neck and we’re chasing the two
    other players,”
    Steve Ballmer, referring to Nokia and Research in Motion. October 6th 2009

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