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  • Mike Warmels

    June 5, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    I have a trashcan MacPro, 6core, D700, 48GB RAM, only a few months old, WITH USB3. So I’m using USB3.

    And no, I am not using media IN the library. Library on internal hard drive media, cache etc on external.

  • Mike Warmels

    June 5, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    I wonder if it’s OSX indexing… but that would mean FCX writes a lot of new files that need constant indexing from OSX… That would be extremely weird.

  • Mike Warmels

    June 5, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    Yes, but 10.2 is not an option for a few more weeks (or months) unfortunately.

    Wow, so even the cache on internal hard drive. Hmmm… well, I won’t comment. 😉

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 5, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    [Mike Warmels] “Yes, but 10.2 is not an option for a few more weeks (or months) unfortunately.

    Wow, so even the cache on internal hard drive. Hmmm… well, I won’t comment. ;-)”

    No comment because it’s weird? I assure you that this isn’t Xenu’s Space Opera.

    The SSD in the MacPro gets nearly 1GB/second. Why would you not put the cache on the fastest drive available? Why you put the cache on the slowest drive available that is also reading your media as well as writing?

    l store all of my caches in the same folder on the boot drive (and fcpx makes a tidy cache package) there is no confusion as to where it is, and how to delete it, all of it, if necessary.

  • Mike Warmels

    June 5, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    Yes I know.

    But a USB3 drive isn’t slow. I remember I cut a documentary series a few years ago, full HD, on a 2009 MacPro with four external harddrives on USB2. And it worked like a charm. Now, my computer is much faster, the drive is much faster and still, working HD on FCPX needs unlimited power it seems.

    But I will try the cache thing. Anything to stop FCPX slowly grinding to a halt within 2 hours.

  • Andy Neil

    June 5, 2015 at 7:29 pm

    [Mike Warmels] “Now, my computer is much faster, the drive is much faster and still, working HD on FCPX needs unlimited power it seems.

    No, there’s something else going on. I have a much worse setup than you do and I don’t see the same issues cutting hour-long shows. I’m running a 2011 Mac Pro with eSATA and internal drives. Sometimes FW800. I have 32GB RAM which helps me, but everything about my computer is slower than yours and I haven’t suffered from slowdowns since the pre-library versions of X.

    Andy

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/107277729326633563425/videos

  • Mike Warmels

    June 5, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    That is why I hope someone can shed some light on what’s going on. Because FCPX does not provide smooth editing to me.

  • Oliver Peters

    June 5, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    [Mike Warmels] “That is why I hope someone can shed some light on what’s going on. Because FCPX does not provide smooth editing to me.”

    I typically experience the same issues, although most of my editing is on older Mac Pro towers. Even the machines with upgraded GPUs, SSDs and tons of RAM – connected to fast RAIDs – do not perform as smoothly as with FCP7, PProCC or MC. OTOH, running FCPX 10.2.1 under Yosemite on my Retina MBP is generally a pleasant experience. The size of the project doesn’t seem to be a huge factor and quite frankly, sometimes it’s random.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 5, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    [Mike Warmels] “But a USB3 drive isn’t slow. I remember I cut a documentary series a few years ago, full HD, on a 2009 MacPro with four external harddrives on USB2. And it worked like a charm. Now, my computer is much faster, the drive is much faster and still, working HD on FCPX needs unlimited power it seems.

    You cut the doc in fcpx a few years ago? As mentioned before, fcpx requires its own workflow, just like any other NLE.

    USB3 is fast, but the SSD is 8-10 times faster. You’re probably topping out around 120MBs on a single spindle drive And you’re trying to read and write at the same time. Not impossible, and still fairly speedy, but without buying one more thing, you can get more performance out of your machine. Why resist it? Xenu’s waiting to drop you in a volcano and cover you up with an a-bomb.

    I’m not saying it’s perfect, but there are things you can do to make sure you’re running most efficiently.

    And. 10.2 will help you. Just to reiterate.

  • Mike Warmels

    June 7, 2015 at 8:34 am

    Ah, no, I cut it on AVID… So four HD streams from four external USB2 discs.So I don’t understand why FCPX apparently needs so much power, memory etc.

    I’ll try putting the cache on my internal HD… but this is where I hope 10.2 will so something better. It’s like FCP7 you kinda have to manage the mediamanagement yourself and with me nothing seems optimal. Personally, I think this is where AVID excels. The mediamanagement of AVID is solid to the bone.

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