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Steve Kanter: What FCPX CAN Do
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Precisely Walter.
They’ve jettisoned the old code in the quest for a newer approach that they believe will allow better performance and capabilities in the future.
But it certainly has disrupted the present.
The only questions left, IMO, is who needs to stay where editing IS for very defensible and sensible business reasons – who is ready to buy into the possibilities that FCP-X might hold for a better future – and who’s going to get STUCK unable to decide what they should do – and for how long.
That’s a pretty simple array of choices.
IF you edit, you HAVE to take one of those three paths. Apple has decided that for you. Like it or not.
By now, anyone who’s been listening should have the objective data they need to make their own decisions. Which is precisely why the non-feature or capability oriented stuff (like the name calling) is getting so tedious.
Those paths should be pretty clear by now. Time for people to make up their minds and move on, IMO.
Sticking around merely to tell people that their viewpoint – whatever that opinion might be – is somehow “wrong” is self-indulgent at this stage, IMO.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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Actually Bill, I invite you to go back to look at my last 100 posts. In fact, you can go back to 2001 if you’d like. You will actually be shocked to see that since June 21st I’ve hardly had time to make many posts. I’ve had several articles and podcasts published however.
So, I challenge you, please do go count up my posts and dissect them anyway you wish, because you’ll find that what you think I’ve written is not in fact what I’ve written. And, other than the few times that I’ve butted in to moderate a thread or two, which is something I hate doing, but something that comes with the turf of being a Cow leader, you will also find that I’m the one asking people to discuss the software, not the software pilot.
Now, if you’d like to go head to head, last one hundred of your posts against the last one hundred of mine, you’re on!!! Let’s count pronouns -let’s count whatever you want. Okay?
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[Bill Davis] “They’ve jettisoned the old code in the quest for a newer approach that they believe will allow better performance and capabilities in the future. But it certainly has disrupted the present.”
Agreed. And in my mind, this is Apple’s big error here — they have prevented users from upgrading from FCP7 to FCPX. All FCP users must either continue work on EOL software, or migrate to another platform (be it Avid, FCPX, Premiere Pro, or something else entirely).
[Bill Davis] “By now, anyone who’s been listening should have the objective data they need to make their own decisions. Which is precisely why the non-feature or capability oriented stuff (like the name calling) is getting so tedious. Those paths should be pretty clear by now. Time for people to make up their minds and move on, IMO.”
I can understand why everyone is upset about Geoff’s original post. He suggested that no one can have a legitimate complaint against FCPX, and that anyone who voices one is simply trying to prove they’re still worthwhile.
A lot of the drama could be avoided if people could understand that we all have different needs and workflows, and FCPX is perfect for some workflows, but totally inappropriate for others. No value judgment here — just a simple fact. It works for some, but not for all.
“Pro” has become a very broad term, and I think the lack of precision in the word is the root of a lot of the disagreement here.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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I wish I had been more clear that when I put ” around “pros”, I was specifically referring to people on this forum that always chime in on any discussion on the merits or lack thereof with FCPX with, “See!!! It’s Crap.”
I was NOT referring to all professionals. Obviously a real pro examines the software carefully first. Discovers if it can fit his needs. If it does, great. If not, move on. I thought that’s who we’re dealing with. Except one pro decided to take offense and I apologize. But David, the blatant attack on me was over the top. Rein it in a bit.
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“The only questions left, IMO, is who needs to stay where editing IS for very defensible and sensible business reasons – who is ready to buy into the possibilities that FCP-X might hold for a better future – and who’s going to get STUCK unable to decide what they should do – and for how long.”
This pretty much sums it up Bill.
I didn’t need and wasn’t looking to make a professional decision of this importance right now.
“Stuck” is a pretty uncreative place though so I made the decision and fortunately all of our upcoming work fits within the initial limitations of X.I know that we are fortunate vs a lot of our brethren (and sistren) who simply cannot use this software as it is and have to make tougher choices.
One thing I have to say about X in general though, it’s so different that it’s fun learning it.
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[Andree Franks] “I have another one for you when Flash came out it was said not use on professional or industrial web sites do it’s lack of Compatibility (plugin needed). What is your take on that!”
I’ll try this one.
My take on that anyone who said Flash should not be used for professional or industrial web sites due to lack of compatibility when it was launched was absolutely correct — at the time. Once you could assume a browser would have Flash, then you could reasonably use it. Macromedia had (and solved) a very difficult chicken-and-egg problem.
Likewise, I think it’s reasonable for someone to denounce FCPX today because it won’t work for them, then adopt it in the future if the software or the user’s needs change.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Craig Seeman] “[Chris Jacek] “Could you imagine Microsoft pulling the same crap with MS-Word?”
Can you imagine what Windows XP users had to do to “upgrade” to Widows 7?”
It’s not even remotely analogous. These are operating systems, not apps, and you could still open most XP apps in Windows 7.
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[Bill Davis] “Criss,
You can’t open “legacy” projects in FCP-X because the underlying database structure is COMPLETELY different. “
And this is exactly why the software should not carry the FCP name. Everyone argues how it is a completely different program, built from the ground up. That’s fine. If they did not name it FCP, and put a higher number on it (albeit not the 8 you’d expect), we’d have much less to complain about. Apple makes the CLEAR implication that this is an upgrade or update.
IF they’d named it something else, and kept FCP alive, I think 90% of the complaints would not exist. It is the deceptive nature of it all that really rubs people the wrong way.
Professor, Producer, Editor
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[Bill Davis] “none of us can make FCP-X into what WE want it to be. It’s Apple’s ballgame. “
oh lord bill, but you kill me.
that, I swear to god, is a truly, truly stupid statement.
[Bill Davis] “I’m mindful that when I post here, I’m leaving a permanent record – and being dismissive of the PEOPLE who disagree.. etc etc etc a dash more CAPS, four more paragraphs, etc etc etc”
and I close with a quote:
“I don’t know why I am being quoted” – unnamed Irish supreme court judge.
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