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Steve Kanter: What FCPX CAN Do
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[Jeremy Garchow] “What I find weird is the “before and after” picture that Apple used at the Supermeet. Essentially they said, here’s the timeline in FCP7, and here’s the same timeline in FCPx. Any questions?
That was a bit of a tease.”
You’re being waaaay too nice. It could also be called bait and switch 😉
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Wait, isn’t this thread about Steve Kanter’s presentation? 😀
“LOL! This is a fascinating tangent!
Really enjoying reading everyone’s thoughts on how to solve the import problem. I’m in the same camp as most of you. Seems like import would be a) doable b) imperfect, and c) give messy results. How valuable that would be would depend on your needs. Agree that anything is probably better than nothing most of the time.
I think another fair question is are there complex timeline structures that FCPX simply cannot handle with its object-based model? Take for example, this timeline sample from Shawn Federline:
What would something like this look like in FCPX? Lots of layers and no notion of “primary”? How well does FCPX’s model accommodate the editorial needs that result in complex structures like these? Looking forward to the day when we can test this. With import!
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[Chris Harlan] “Actually, he doesn’t. I’ve read David’s posts on and off for years and he has provided a terrific public service. I don’t think he sounds arrogant at all.”
Thanks for your support Chris. It’s tough around these parts now that it’s open season on professional editors.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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You hit the nail on the head, David. That is the perfect example where this timeline is more of a composite than a story. In that case, I think the “gaps” are going to have to get a workout in the primary storyline, but it’s going to be hard to tell FCPx how to do that. Well maybe not, on second thought. There certainly is no visible primary storyline in that timeline and since the primary storyline dictates the timing of the rest of the elements…..
This is a case where compound clips might make sense, but how would you know which stacks to make compund clips? Therein lies the problem.
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I just realized that this complaining and nagging about FCPX not importing FCP7 projects proofs that everybody really wants to use FCPX!
If I would NOT want us it since FCPX is not so great… 🙂 why would I care and waste my time and energy arguing about it? It’s the wishful thinking. 😉Me personally I kinda like this Node like Timeline. Most likely I will do the next project on it to see how it can stand in a real life situation. Besides it’s good to know something that MIGHT, become the next big hit?
For my old FCP7 projects… well last time I checked FCP7 still worked on day it was pulled. I see FCPX as like no other NLE software. If it was done in MediaComposer, Premiere or Final Cut Pro# I will use that software to do my changes.
You guys have a nice day! 🙂
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Herb, I hear clearly that you loath Apple as an entity, but to argue that they’ve grown from their particular garage and taken their vision farther, and in a more sustainable fashion than any other current operation on the planet (Exxon/Mobile excepted) is simply magical thinking.
The truth is that no matter how you measure creativity in business, Apple is a world class company.
That they’ve bought or licensed as many patents or processes as they’ve developed in house is just a reflection of the fact that they understand that no business can exist in a modern, interconnected planetary global economy as an island.
Stuff they HAVE invented in house, (e.g. Quicktime, Firewire (prior to giving it away to iEEE to encourage it as a standard) and everything else represented by the quite large vault of in-house patents they hold were developed on company time with company resources by company people.
So I believe you’re argument falls flat by objective standards.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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Bill,
Apple did not give Firewire to IEEE. They funded IEEE’s development of the technology, which
pretty much amounts to buying it. And to whose “objective” standards do you refer? Your own?bigpine
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I don’t loath Apple I admire them greatly. But just because a company is great at some things doesn’t mean it is great at all things.
Apple is great at the nexus of hardware and software – nobody is better at thinking about the future uses of computers and designing the operating systems that interface with users, with special emphasis on consumers, the type of users who don’t want to know how or why something works, who just want something that works.
However software applications are not any of the things I have described, and they are not something that Apple has ever been great at. Name one category leading App they have ever designed themselves – a word processor, spreadsheet, financial program, sound editor, image editor – anything. No Word, Excel, Quicken, Photoshop, Pro-Tools – no software that was not part of the operating system ever caused anyone to jump up and shout.
Actually, I mis-spoke, there was one category leader that only Apple sold, and that was Final Cut, a program created by Macromedia. I will give Apple credit for nurturing it and improving it and making a category leader out of it. But then of course you know what they did with it — they dumped it. As they have done with a room full of other software they bought and mismanaged to death.
So if I were to objectively look at Adobe, Apple and Avid and ask myself who has the best track record for creating innovative media software, Apple would be at the bottom of that list. And that’s just the facts.
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[Bill Davis] “So I believe you’re argument falls flat by objective standards.”
Bill, although you’re not exactly the world’s leading expert on “objective standards,” I’m very happy to see that it’s not all typed in caps. This proves there’s hope for all the rest of us old dogs. I might even take my copy of FCP X out of the mothballs now…
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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Since you just asked for “one” here you go.
Keynote.
Go backstage and any major business conference or public presentation and ask the tech crew behind the curtains whether they would prefer presentations in PowerPoint or Keynote. They might say “either” because they understand that their job is to work with both – but buy them a drink after the job – away from their bosses – and if it’s not 99 to 1 Keynote, I’d be shocked.
Even in the PC dominanated world of big company IT – the guys I know and have worked with for years break out in a sweat when they’re forced to work with PP presentations, and exhibit nothing but relief when handed a Keynote presentation. Particularly when the presentation is complex. Embedded sound and video files in Keynote projects tend to simply work.
In PowerPoint, not so much.
Apple software. Generally regarded as “top of the class.”
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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