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  • Standard DVD Files on a Blu-ray Disk Redux

    Posted by Rich Kutnick on April 1, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Okay, so as a test for a long program, I prepared standard DVD folders (Video_TS and Audio_TS) and burned them on to a BD-RE with ImgBurn. While the menuing system works using software such as Cyberlink PowerDVD, when I place this disk into either of my two standalone Blu-ray players, I am presented with screens that note I have a media disk in the player. In other words, I can browse through the Video_TS folder, pick out a VOB file, and play it, yet I cannot utilize the menuing system. Each successive VOB file will automatically play, after a short pause, so that I can watch the complete program, but I cannot access any specific chapter on the disk. Putting long programs shot in SD onto Blu-ray disks has been suggested as the best method to distribute such programs, per my earlier inquiries, but the results that I have witnessed won’t work for my purposes. I need to be able to access the menus! Have I done something wrong? Why will my PC software read the menuing system and let me use it, but my Blu-ray players do not recognize that I have written standard compliant DVD files to the Blu-ray disks?? Shouldn’t I see and be able to use the BD-RE in my Blu-ray players as if it were a standard DVD, as does the software? If anyone knows the answer I would appreciate a response.

    Rich Kutnick
    VIDEO IMPRESSIONS

    John Rofrano replied 13 years, 1 month ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    April 2, 2013 at 2:42 am

    [Rich Kutnick] “Have I done something wrong? Why will my PC software read the menuing system and let me use it, but my Blu-ray players do not recognize that I have written standard compliant DVD files to the Blu-ray disks?? Shouldn’t I see and be able to use the BD-RE in my Blu-ray players as if it were a standard DVD, as does the software? If anyone knows the answer I would appreciate a response.”

    The Blu-ray disc format is different from the DVD format. You need to author your Blu-ray disks in Blu-ray format which is not the VIDEO_TS folder that you used. Drop your media into DVA Architect and create a Blu-ray project. Then burn from there.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Rich Kutnick

    April 2, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    Thanks for the advice, JR. I did not know that Blu-ray disks ALSO required Blu-ray formatting with it’s associated file system. I thought that I just could drop in the Video_TS folder that contains the SD VOB files. I now am that much more educated about this. To take it a step further, then, if I have a dual-layer, authored standard DVD and want to put this on Blu-ray, can I do so and keep the menuing system? Several colleagues have given their clients dual-layer disks and a few of them have had problems with this media, so I suggested that they may try to copy them to Blu-ray, and they asked how–oops! Any suggestions?

    Rich Kutnick
    VIDEO IMPRESSIONS

  • Nigel O’neill

    April 3, 2013 at 11:22 am

    [Rich Kutnick] “Several colleagues have given their clients dual-layer disks and a few of them have had problems with this media”

    Many DVD burners give you the option to change Booktype / Bitsetting via the burning software to improve disc playback compatibility. I set my DVD+R DL discs to book type DVD-ROM and have had zero returns.

    A Booktype (bitsetting) field is present on the lead-in part of a DVD disc. This field is essential for the hardware accessing the data on the disc to identify if it is a DVD-R, DVD+R (or re-writable variants) or DVD-ROM. DVD-R is the oldest and so it is probably the most compatible for DVD players when bought. For this reason, editing the Booktype has some obvious benefits.

    To learn how to do this in 2 of the more popular burning software packages, refer to these guides:

    Imgburn guide:
    https://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_set_booktype_for_blank_dvd_r_w__media_page_2.cfm

    Nero guide:
    https://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_set_booktype_for_blank_dvd_r_w__media_page_3.cfm

    My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 12 (x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

  • John Rofrano

    April 3, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    [Rich Kutnick] ” To take it a step further, then, if I have a dual-layer, authored standard DVD and want to put this on Blu-ray, can I do so and keep the menuing system?”

    There may be programs that can copy DVD to Blu-ray but I doubt they preserve the menus and you can’t do this just by copying the media yourself. Blu-ray menus and DVD menus are different formats. You might want to Google “DVD to Blu-ray” and see what you get. I would be very careful of clicking on any links in the search because this is probably software that is used by “less reputable” people (if you know what I mean). Make sure that you have WOT or some other browser plug-in that warns you about potentially dangerous web sites.

    [Rich Kutnick] “Several colleagues have given their clients dual-layer disks and a few of them have had problems with this media, so I suggested that they may try to copy them to Blu-ray, and they asked how–oops! Any suggestions?”

    They would have to author for Blu-ray to begin with and their clients would need Blu-ray players which they may not have. Then they would have to deal with Blu-ray compatibility problems so you’ve substituted one potential problem for another.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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