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SSD or HDD RAID for FinalCut
Posted by Thomas Prunty on January 20, 2011 at 5:27 amWhat is best for scratch/media disk? A single SSD? Or a RAID 0 with standard 7200RPM drives?
Thanks
Paul Jay replied 15 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 16 Replies -
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David Roth weiss
January 20, 2011 at 3:36 pmNo one other than you has even considered using a SSD in place of a RAID, much less compared the two side by side. Given the cost of SSDs it’s not worth even thinking about. Don’t get hung up in the technical, get creative and make stuff.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Alan Okey
January 20, 2011 at 4:21 pm[David Roth Weiss] “No one other than you has even considered using a SSD in place of a RAID, much less compared the two side by side. “
You simply must see this:
https://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/24-ssd-raid-array-opens-all-microsoft-office-apps-in-05-sec/3809
24 SSD RAID array opens 53 installed apps in 18 seconds…
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David Roth weiss
January 20, 2011 at 4:34 pmAlan,
I just went online to see the current state of available SSD drives and I found the following:
There are actually 1Tb SSD drives available now. Unfortunately the best price I could find was $3050 per copy, which is 3000% more than the cost of a single analog 1Tb SATA drive. See the link below if you or Chris wish to purchase a few. I’m sure Newegg will be happy to sell you as many as you’d like…
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227515
So, at the risk of repeating myself… Let’s all get back to creating good &^%$ right now and leave this concept alone for the time being.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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David Roth weiss
January 20, 2011 at 5:47 pm[Alan Okey] “this one goes to 11…
“Please interpret Alan… I have no idea what that one means.
THNX,
DRWDavid Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Alan Okey
January 20, 2011 at 5:58 pmSorry, it’s a reference to a humorous scene from the film This Is Spinal Tap. I won’t bother explaining it as I think it’s probably pretty easy to find that scene somewhere online.
I posted the earlier link for its humor value. I wasn’t implying that I think using and SSD for media storage is really an option. Obviously the price premium doesn’t make SSDs a competitive choice at this time.
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David Roth weiss
January 20, 2011 at 6:11 pm[Alan Okey] “I posted the earlier link for its humor value. I wasn’t implying that I think using and SSD for media storage is really an option.”
I knew that… And BTW, earlier in the week I was being humorous when I said that completely winging things in post was a good way to increase traffic here on the Cow.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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David Roth weiss
January 20, 2011 at 6:17 pm[Alan Okey] “it’s a reference to a humorous scene from the film This Is Spinal Tap.”
BINGO!!! I found it…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN5SCRvhMtk
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Jean-christophe Boulay
January 20, 2011 at 6:50 pmSSD’s make kicka$$ system drives, but are a very very bad choice for media drives, where many successive write-delete-rewrite cycles will occur. With each cycle, they get slower and slower until their mechanical counterparts trounce them. For a better explanation than what I could possibly fit in this post, you can have a read here: https://techreport.com/articles.x/17136/2. Or google “block rewrite penalty”.
Take note that Mac OS does not have TRIM support yet, which would attenuate the problem. Apple seemingly has no plan for it in coming updates either, in typical “if it doesn’t start with the letter i we don’t really care” fashion. So on top of being bloody expensive, SSDs as media drives are technically a bad idea. For once, techs and accountants can see eye-to-eye.
JC Boulay
Technical Director
Audio Z
Montreal, Canada
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Thomas Prunty
January 20, 2011 at 10:32 pmThank you Jean. While I appreciate the other guys “attempting” to add input – my question was not “should I get creative?” It was, what will make my system faster? An SSD or a RAID? So that being said, an SSD for media/scratch is not ideal whereas an HDD RAID is better?
Thanks mate.
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