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Split Audio on Import
Posted by Steven J. gilbert on June 25, 2007 at 2:41 pmCan audio that is imported into PP2 come into the timeline as split audio? I wonder if this has been fixed in CS3? In FCP you can import audio and drop it to a timeline and duplicate and delete audio on any channel without any extra steps of splitting to mono shannels and dragging new footage to the timeline. Thanks for the assistance.
Steve
Vince Becquiot replied 18 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies -
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Vince Becquiot
June 25, 2007 at 3:35 pmNothing to fix here.
Once your file is selected in the project panel, go to clip > Audio options > Break out to mono.
No extra steps here.
Vince
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Steven J. gilbert
June 25, 2007 at 4:36 pmI am not able to drag the footage to the timeline as separated audio. I have broken out the clips and made sure I have at least 2 mono audio tracks. I have to drag the audio to the timeline, unlink the video and audio, then throw away the stereo audio and replace with 2 clips of the left audio for simulated stereo. There is one things that is good. The separated audio clips retain in and out points to match footage on teh timeline. In FCP I import and drag to the timeline and it is already separated. What am I doing wrong or does it really take this many steps? Thanks.
Steve
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Kent Smith
June 25, 2007 at 5:38 pmBut, unfortunately, that’s not it. They’re “separated” tracks in the bin, so the video and 2 tracks of mono have to be put into the time line then manually re-sync’d.
What the gentleman is talking about will be a useful tool. When I shoot I often set channel 1 and 2 at different levels, so when one is low, the other channel is already set higher, and vice versa. But if I ONLY want to use the left channel, then the next clip ONLY want to use the right channel, there is no simple way in PPro to do that. It’s a mess. What would be nice is to set a clip to stereo or 2 tracks of SYNCED mono, and when the clip is dragged into the time line it automatically goes to two seaprates tracks, so I can use either one of the two tracks, or both. But to break out to mono manually, seems like the software should be doing that, not the operator. I mean, the whole point of computer editing software is to eliminate the tedious, repetitive aspects of editig, not create more.
What would be diffcult about an operation: Drap a clip to the timeline, and it goes in as 2 tracks of mono intead of 1 track of stereo. And get rid of the “break out to mono”. It’s a worthless operation anyway.
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Mike Cohen
June 25, 2007 at 7:58 pmCan any PC based editing systems do this? It seems FCP and Media 100 do this by default, maybe it’s the Mac.
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Vince Becquiot
June 25, 2007 at 9:55 pmWell, it looks like you guys are all trying to achieve different things here, and hey, Premiere does require some extra steps for some things, just like FCP requires extra steps for other things, I’m not going to lauch another item by item war here; after all, until this month you couldn’t even mix different formats on the same FCP timeline…
Max,
Before you drag the clip to the timeline, go to clip > Audio options > Source channel mapping. Then pick mono. That will keep your file intact with two separate mono audio channels. Drag your clip to the timeline, then hold ‘Alt’ as you click to move or delete one sparately, how’s that ?
Vince
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Kent Smith
June 26, 2007 at 6:24 pmI’ll try it out, but when I edit, I go through a lot of clips very fast. And extra steps means extra time. And when you’re paid by the project, and not by the hour, extra time is less money. So actually, for some editors it is a big issue. I picked PPro over FCP because, for the most part, I could do things in less steps. But, without going into detail, there were a lot of trade offs. But what I think what the previous posts are talking about would make an important improvement in PPro for editors who don’t want to be stuck in stereo audio for dialog channels as a default. And don’t want to “break out” audio everytime a clip gets put into the timeline.
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Vince Becquiot
June 26, 2007 at 8:17 pmWell, I have an answer for that too. You can select all the clips and do that only once.
We always use a separate digital recorder for audio, so I may not really feel that this is a big workflow issue, but it just doesn’t seem like it would take much time to do at all. A few seconds at most.
Cheers,
Vince
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Vince Becquiot
June 26, 2007 at 8:24 pmBTW, don’t misunderstand me in thinking that I wouldn’t want to see a default separate channels setting.
I just think that Adobe hasn’t gotten to it because of the major overhaul it would have to deal with for the timeline. Now that this Vista / Apple update is behind us, we might see to more substantial changes in future versions.
Vince
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Steven J. gilbert
June 27, 2007 at 1:10 pmVince,
That works much better. What’s the ALT key do? It seemed to stay as separated audio to the timeline. Thanks for the assistance. That’s exactly what I wanted to accomplish. I have a lav on one channel and nat sound on the other. For these clips I don’t need the nat sound. This should save a little time. Thanks.
Max
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Vince Becquiot
June 27, 2007 at 5:06 pmGlad that worked for you. Holding the ‘Alt’ key will allow you to select (or even move) the left or right channel separately. Otherwise, I think you will be restricted to selecting both channels at the same time. Could get useful at some point…
Cheers,
Vince
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