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  • Andrew Kimery

    October 16, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    [Jeff Kirkland] “There’s also no reason they can’t look at your App Store account and have the store show you a cheaper discount price for the new version if you already own the current version.”

    It’s Apple’s store and they can make whatever rules they want, but currently there are rules that prevent upgrade discounts in their App Stores.

  • Marcus Moore

    October 17, 2013 at 12:10 am

    [Craig Seeman] “Some of us may believe that the base level MacPro will be more than a BTO iMac or rMBP.”

    While I don’t expect Apple to make a super-cheap version of the MacPro, I DO think there’ll be one available for under $4,000 which is what a topped out iMac runs. I’m more inclined to believe the entry level MacPro will be about $3,500, which is just a hair above the $3,449 price of a top ‘o the line rMBP.

    Apple can always throw us curves, but you’re likely to be more right than wrong if bet on them staying the course.

    We shall see… (hopefully soon!)

  • Craig Seeman

    October 17, 2013 at 1:19 am

    [Marcus Moore] “I’m more inclined to believe the entry level MacPro will be about $3,500”

    The number I’m guessing as well. I think they’ll be a 6 and 8 core models along with the 12 core we know of. It’ll be interesting to see the AMD FirePro GPU variations. They’ll be size options with the PCIe SSD as well.

  • Chris Harlan

    October 17, 2013 at 2:48 am

    [Marcus Moore] “I DO think there’ll be one available for under $4,000 which is what a topped out iMac runs. I’m more inclined to believe the entry level MacPro will be about $3,500, which is just a hair above the $3,449 price of a top ‘o the line rMBP.”

    I think they have to have one there or it will die fairly quickly. Its not geared to take on the upper end of the workstation market, so it has to hit the center to lower end of that market with a little extra oomph. And its design and portability suggest that they know that. So yeah, I think somewhere between 3200 and 3800 for a quad-core, and 3800 and 4200 for a hexa-core. And then the whole thing probably goes up to about 15,000–18,000, fully built, but I don’t think they’ll sell a lot of those.

  • Bret Williams

    October 17, 2013 at 4:16 am

    Has anyone pondered what we can do with 10.0.x after we purchase (not upgrade, there’s no upgrades in App store) 10.1 and we no longer need 10.0.x? Any other piece of boxed software and I’d sell my license if it wasn’t needed for an upgrade. So now I have purchased a piece of software I don’t need and can’t sell? Starts to smell like a cloud.

  • Marcus Moore

    October 17, 2013 at 4:35 am

    I think the big distinction from “cloud” is that you’re not paying monthly for a service whether you choose to upgrade or not. If 10.1 has no value for you or your workflow, keeping using 10.0.9. At 28 months since launch, FCPX and all it’s free update has cost you $10.71/mo. If you keep using 10.0.9 as is for another year it will have cost you $7.50/mo. While CC Pr (only) will continue to cost you $19.99/mo.

    But I think you’d best get used to digital media having no resale value. I don’t see that changing. It was nice while it lasted (like resale textbooks) but those days are coming to an end. Thankfully the software has gotten cheaper as well.

    And this is not to say that I’m against CC’s implementation- I’m already a subscriber. I’m happy to pay $299 every two years. Heck, I’d be willing to pay that every year to keep major updates coming. It’s a key cost to my business- and super small compared to what I make off it.

  • Jeff Kirkland

    October 17, 2013 at 4:57 am

    It’s been a while since I actually bothered to read an EULA but I’m fairly sure that part of it is that in return for getting an upgrade price on the next version you agreed to not resell your current copy. So technically, you’ve never had the option o selling your boxed versions.

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  • Andrew Kimery

    October 17, 2013 at 6:00 am

    [Bret Williams] “Starts to smell like a cloud.

    More like starts to smell like digital distribution. Music, movie, books, etc.,. if you get a digital copy you are stuck with it until a ubiquitous licensing and tracking system emerges where all content is DRM’d. So if I sell my eBook (or whatever) to someone else the eBook is remotely wiped from all of my devices and then made available for the buyer to download. Having all media cloud-based and streamed to the end user makes this problem easier to handle but comes with it’s own set of problems.

    [Jeff Kirkland] “It’s been a while since I actually bothered to read an EULA but I’m fairly sure that part of it is that in return for getting an upgrade price on the next version you agreed to not resell your current copy. So technically, you’ve never had the option o selling your boxed versions.”

    How could Apple’s EULA talk about upgrade discounts when upgrades don’t exist in their app store?

  • Marcus Moore

    October 17, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    I think he was talking about Legacy upgrades.

  • Craig Seeman

    October 18, 2013 at 11:41 am

    [Andy Branner] “I’d say history has clearly shown that any and all new generations of Mac models have always cost the same (maybe +/-$100) on the low end as the previous model.”

    15″ MBP Retina starts at $2200. Of course they still have the non Retina.
    I think in this case the BTO 27″ iMac with Quad i7 and 4GB VRAM fill the $2500 “void”
    Personally I don’t think they’ll be a Quad Xeon MacPro. That’s why I’m guessing 6 Core at about $3500.

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