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Speculating whether FCPX 10.1 be a paid update?
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I don’t think it’s going to be a paid update for several reasons (just speculation, of course):
– Apple’s goal with FCP is not to make money with the application itself but selling macs and with media content distribution.
– Apple wants to gain more market and still need to push FCPX forward.
– If you look at Apple’s apps in iOS or App Store you’ll find that all of them are updated and upgraded for free. The only exception is Mac OS, but don’t forget that it comes for free with every new Mac and you need to pay for it only with “old” computers”.Leo Hans
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I find that highly likely.
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Agreed- we’re all engaging in fun speculation, and with some interesting (and conflicting) data points.
So it’s going to be really interesting to see how it all turns out.
Apple has generally commoditized software, and I think we’re currently seeing a fresh move to add value to both their OS platforms by bundling software with new hardware purchases. iLife has always been free on OSX, and I think Apple’s recent moves with their iWork apps (both iWork in the cloud and free with hardware on iOS) are first as Apple’s answer to Google Docs, and second jumping on the hole left by Microsoft no bringing Office to iOS. With Office365 as a paid service, I think Apple sees an opportunity to grab some marketshare. If someone can use Pages on their iOS device AND on their Windows PC, why pay for Office (depending on your usage of course)?
So while there’s a case to do this, I think you have to look at iLife/iWork and ProApps as two separate categories. Right now the only data points we have for ProApps on the appStore are FCPX, Motion5, Compressor, Aperture, and both LogicPro9 and LogicProX. All these have been full price paid apps. And unless something dramatic changes I think that’s what we should expect.
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I think the most obvious scenario is this-
If you own X, after 10.1 comes out there will be a new application called Final Cut Pro X with a $299 price tag.
If you don’t own X, then you see exactly the same thing.
If you’re machine doesn’t meet the specs for the new FCPX, it will tell you. I don’t think they’ll let people download the old version after 10.1 is released. Unless you already purchased it, I don’t think you can still download Logic Pro 9.
If you downloaded X originally, but were on an old version and wanted to update to 10.0.9 even though 10.1 was out, you can still do that thru purchase history. And if Apple needed to, they could push out an update to the 10.0.9 version the same way, as 10.0.10.
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That’s true, but don’t forget that it was their first versions in the Apps Store.
Leo Hans
Editor AVID – Final Cut Pro (7+X)
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Another interesting point: In the purchased tab, the application is listed as Final Cut Pro. Of course 10.0.9 won’t be available in the store once 10.1 comes out and the only way to download 10.0.9 is through the purchased page, but I was thinking you couldn’t differentiate the two. These are the scenarios…
1. FCPX 10.1 will be a normal update to 10.0.9 users (not paid)
2. FCPX 10.1 will be called Final Cut Pro X and exist as a new app replacing Final Cut Pro (of course the page displays Final Cut Pro X currently, but in the store search and purchased pages it’s listed as Final Cut Pro.#2 Seems very confusing. I’m also curious if Apple’s new “Pro” campaign will allow new Macbook Pro and Mac Pro customers to download (and own) all of the Pro apps. Aperture, Final Cut Pro, etc.
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Except for Logic. Regardless of the fact that Logic9 was a port from the boxed version, Logic was on sale in the appStore for almost 2 years before Logic Pro X was released- for the same price. Logic Pro 9 disappears, Logic Pro X is there.
Although I think we all understand what it means, I think the 10.1 moniker is confusing us all as to how big an update this will be. 10.1 will be no more or less significant that FCP 5 to FCP6 to FCP7.
I think the banners on the appStore will make it very clear its a new version of the software- and those who are interesting in it will have little confusion about what they’re looking for.
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I think this whole free Pro apps with free hardware thing is way out of left field.
They can’t do it exclusively for the MacPro, cause who’s to say someone buying a base model MacPro isn’t spending LESS money than someone buying a completely maxed out rMPB or iMac? What will those people think? They’re getting screwed.
The only way it works is if Apple just decides to make all their Pro offerings free, and I think there’s basically no chance of that.
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[Marcus Moore] “They can’t do it exclusively for the MacPro, cause who’s to say someone buying a base model MacPro isn’t spending LESS money than someone buying a completely maxed out rMPB or iMac?”
Some of us may believe that the base level MacPro will be more than a BTO iMac or rMBP.
Hmm, I can buy a maxed out iPad and get iWorks free which costs more than a MacMini which I’d have to pay for iWorks (not counting web implementation). I know, not the same thing but…
I think Apple is changing things around at the moment as they are doing with iWorks free download for iOS and free web version of iWorks for both Mac and Windows.
Apple’s been known to break patterns.
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At the end of the day Apple are in the hardware business. They provide FCP because it fits the creative demographic they tend towards and because it only runs on OSX and locks you into the hardware. Apple will have no issue at all with a new version of FCPX requiring you to upgrade your computer to use it. I’m sure they’d prefer it.
As a result any and all ideas in this thread a very possible, just some more likely than others. Apple make the rules as far as the App Store goes so they can pretty much do whatever they want with the pricing, upgrading, etc.
I can’t see any reason that a new Mac Pro might not come with FCPX & Motion pre-installed if they want to give it away as a bonus.
There’s also no reason they can’t look at your App Store account and have the store show you a cheaper discount price for the new version if you already own the current version.
I guess we’ll see in a week or three 🙂
Jeff Kirkland | Video Producer | Southern Creative Media | Melbourne Australia
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