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  • Specs for Mac Pro using AE

    Posted by Noah Klersfeld on December 4, 2015 at 11:31 pm

    Hello

    I am looking to buy a new mac pro. my most demanding work is in After Effects making projects with 400 to 900 masks each on their own layer. for rendering this out am i looking for cores, processing speed, ram? i am hoping not to max out all of them. i did that last time for my current machine (2 x 2.93 Ghz 6-Core Xeon, 64G RAM) and it was very expensive and it still takes 4-6 hours to render 1 minute of footage.

    Thank you
    Noah

    Kevin Camp replied 10 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Kevin Camp

    December 5, 2015 at 1:04 am

    you won’t see a huge performance boost from the new mac pro compared to the mac that you currently have. at least not from a processing viewpoint. and with a new mac pro you will also be buying 2 fairly expensive graphics cards that after effects will not make much use of…

    from the sounds of it, your biggest enemy may be ram… 900 layers is a lot to hold in memory.

    the new mac pro’s ssd may improve render times by giving you a significantly faster disk caching. however you could probably outfit your current mac pro with a ssd or two that could give you a similar performance boost for a fraction of the cost of a new mac pro (which isn’t really new anymore, they came out in 2013 and haven’t been updated since).

    here’s alink to some benchmarks comparing a ssd upgrade for a 2009 mac pro with the ssd performance of a new mac pro:

    https://barefeats.com/hard200.html

    i’m not endorsing the product, i’ve not used it, but it does look promising.

    i would do some more research, and hopefully others can give more input, but that’s my 2-cents.

    Kevin Camp
    Art Director
    KCPQ, KZJO & KRCW

  • Noah Klersfeld

    December 5, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    Thanks Kevin – I will look into SSD for my current system. Appreciate the advice!

  • Noah Klersfeld

    December 5, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    Thanks Dave – I will look to boost my processors without getting a new machine. My RAM is 64G and when I am running render queue in AE it reads 8% RAM utilization at the bottom of the rendering interface. What does this mean? I am running AE5 at the moment.

  • Noah Klersfeld

    December 5, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    Kevin – My RAM is 64G and when I am running render queue in AE it reads 8% RAM utilization at the bottom of the rendering interface. What does this mean?

  • Kevin Camp

    December 7, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    Dave’s right about not upgrading the OS… CS5 does not work for me on Yosemite. Interestingly, CS4 does with just a few minor hiccups.

    As for your RAM usage, do you have multiprocessing enabled in CS5 (preferences>memory & multiprocessing, checkmark for ‘render multiple frames simultaneously’)?

    if so, what are the other settings on that panel?

    if not, you may want to enable that, and here’s a few links you might want to take a look at to help with understanding the settings to get you started:

    https://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/using-render-multiple-frames-simultaneously-multiprocessing

    https://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2010/10/please-try-recommended-memory-settings-for-after-effects-cs5-and-give-feedback.html

    https://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2009/12/performance-tip-dont-starve-yo.html

    https://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2010/03/performance-tip-dont-oversched.html

    also, with your comps with 400-900 layers with masks, are those 400-900 layers typically an image sequence or are they layered together, overlapping each other in the timeline?

    Kevin Camp
    Art Director
    KCPQ, KZJO & KRCW

  • Noah Klersfeld

    December 7, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    OK Thanks Kevin
    I am running 10.6.8 so thats good.

    Render Multiple Frames is enabled. From there the numbers going down the list are:
    24 CPU / 10 CPU for AE / 3GB RAM per background CPU / 14 Actual CPU used.

    Above that is 64G RAM / 16G RAM for other apps / 48G RAM for for AE.

    The 400-900 layers overlap each other in the timeline.

    Noah

  • Noah Klersfeld

    December 7, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    thank you Dave yes CS5 and I am running 10.6.8

  • Kevin Camp

    December 7, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    those settings seem pretty good for your machine…. i’m still surprised at the low ram usage and the slow render times.

    you might open the activity monitor (applications>utilities), click the cpu tab to view processes and start a render and watch the ‘aeselflink’ processes and see how much cpu usage each is using. you would hope to see numbers over 100%, if not there may be a data bottleneck somewhere in your system (or you maybe using an effect that does not work with ‘render frames simultaneously’, there are a few).

    Kevin Camp
    Art Director
    KCPQ, KZJO & KRCW

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