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Speaking of tipping points…
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Ah no marcus – sure Avid’s fine, Premiere is fine, and you know what – FCPX is fine too man – its up there, plugging those gaps in unlikely spots like say, some canadian newspaper – and its honest work you know? someone’s got to do it, and its great that FCPX is out there doing it.
seriously – fair play to FCPX – its… like the little engine that could.
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[Andrew Kimery] “It’s been a while since I’ve read Murch’s book about the ordeal, but from what I remember there were some new features in FCP 4 that would’ve been helpful but Apple wouldn’t allow them access to the beta of 4. Apple actually didn’t want anything to do with the project because they were afraid of failure and the resulting black eye it could give FCP. Digital Film Tree and Sean Cullen (Murch’s long time AE) basically cobbled together a tedious workflow from scratch.”
Let’s not get all wrapped up in this. I’ve actually interviewed Murch, Cullen and Apple’s managers at that time about this. Before “Cold Mountain”, the Coens had already been using FCP and they had direct support in that endeavor from Apple. On “Cold Mountain” it would have required support long distance in another country, which Apple was not able to supply. So they were quite reluctant. Digital Film Tree stepped in to provide support.
“Cold Mountain” was shot on film, which added a wrinkle in those days, because film tracking and support for negative cutting didn’t really exist in FCP (pre-Cinema Tools, I believe) the way it did with Avid. If you do a search for Murch’s speech at the NAB SuperMeet several years back, Murch goes into some of the history as part of his workflow discussion of “Youth Without Youth”. The reason he decided to go down the route of FCP, was due to Cullen’s urging, sparked by less-than-satisfactory support of shared storage by Avid in Europe on “The Talented Mr. Ripley”. So he felt it was time to look elsewhere.
It’s a completely different time these days. So many films are shot and posted in a completely digital fashion, that the arcane arts of working with 35mm cut lists, etc. are almost entirely gone in Hollywood.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Aindreas Gallagher] ” I was looking into a stage box with perfect little people dancing in it. beautiful”
It really was exactly that. Completely sold me on the possibilities of 3D…and educated me somewhat about the limits for its best use.
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Hey, man, I’m not saying do it. That would NOT be my advice. From where I sit, there are far too many better alternatives. But if you gave me the choice of cutting a feature on X or FCP 2/3beta (remember that, at the time, there is no Cinema Tools, and program still lacks several basic list functions, which Apple had to write for them, and, no, no control surfaces, and comparatively weak hardware with very little available in the way of i/o), I’d choose X. Well, and ProTools.
It’s hard to remember, but a lot has changed.
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[Chris Harlan] “t’s hard to remember, but a lot has changed.”
Except for the reaction to the “new NLE on the block” by a large, vocal group of users of “established” NLE’s. Including those who use an older product from the same company.
I was just looking at some of the old bug reports I submitted from my “classic” beta testing days (which were for version 2.5 up through v 4 or so), as well as some of my email exchanges with the FCP team at the time. Deja Vu all over again. 🙂
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[Chris Harlan] ” But if you gave me the choice of cutting a feature on X or FCP 2/3beta”
Completely agree. I’d be willing to do it right now.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] ” film tracking and support for negative cutting didn’t really exist in FCP (pre-Cinema Tools, I believe)”
Oliver,
Cinema Tools was purchased and released in (April?) 2002. It may not have been part of their workflow, but it predated the release if not the production and was before FCP4.
Also, was it compatible with FCP pre-purchase by Apple? Or was it unrelated?
Franz.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Also, was it compatible with FCP pre-purchase by Apple? Or was it unrelated?”
I’m not sure. I think unrelated, because it tracked a key number database against an EDL for negative cutting.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Andrew Kimery] “It’s been a while since I’ve read Murch’s book about the ordeal, but from what I remember there were some new features in FCP 4 that would’ve been helpful but Apple wouldn’t allow them access to the beta of 4.”
I think it was the advent of XML, wasn’t it?
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “seriously – fair play to FCPX – its… like the little engine that could.”
Oh, no. Aindreas is being a very naughty engine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaHAulQobBI
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