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  • Source Timecode output from timeline

    Posted by Doug Pagano on January 15, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Is there a way in Final cut or any other editing APP for that matter to output source timecode to tape from a timeline. In other words I have a camera original with TOD (Time of Day) timecode. Many camera stops so FCP is making many clips. I want to edit all clips together and output to new master with the original source timecode, thus making a digital clone of the master shoot reel….Anyone?
    Source tapes: DVCProHD
    FCP ingest via Firewire
    Output to DVCProHD via Firewire

    While I’m here is there anyway for FCP to capture accross timecode breaks…I hate all the clips when I’m trying to capture an entire tape

    Matt Brown replied 16 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    January 15, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Nope, can’t do that. You can output the timecode from the timeline, but not the original tapes. You can make a window burn by displaying the original TC but you can’t lay it to tape.

    We make deck to deck digital clones all the time here with the Panasonic 1400’s. One deck feeds the other TC so the TC also matches all the way through. That’s really the only way to do what you’re asking.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Doug Pagano

    January 15, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Thanks…2 deck rentals = $$$$
    Any thoughts on getting 1 continuous clip…I have deselected make subclips in the preferences yet it continues to make sub clips at all timecode breaks

  • Shane Ross

    January 15, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    If it didn’t make new clips then your timecode would be all messed up. It would CONTINUE from where the first clip ended…the number would continue…but they would be wrong because you shot time of day.

    You do NOT want to work with footage that has the wrong time code. Danger danger. This means that you cannot rebuild a project if you lose a drive, or if you need to revisit a project you have since erased from your drives.

    The decision was made to shoot time of day code, so you have to deal with the consequences of that decision…meaning lots of clips and royal pain when capturing the footage. I avoid this format when possible, as it is very time consuming in post.

    Shane

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  • Walter Biscardi

    January 15, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    [doug pagano] “Any thoughts on getting 1 continuous clip…I have deselected make subclips in the preferences yet it continues to make sub clips at all timecode breaks”

    You would have to tell it to warn you after capture about timecode breaks.

    BUT you then would have inaccurate timecode from the moment of the first TC break. FCP will create continuous timecode from the moment you start capturing until you’re done. So anything after that first TC break will not match the original tapes.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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  • Doug Pagano

    January 15, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Thanks all

  • Nick Price

    January 15, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Hi Doug,
    I agree, ToD TCode is really annoying. If you are hiring 2 decks i would create an entirely new digital master with continuous timecode, and use that for the rest of the project, no more TC breaks…..although only if you have 1 or 2 tapes…..any more and you might go a little mad.
    best wishes
    nick

  • Rich Rubasch

    January 16, 2009 at 12:44 am

    Hmm…can’t do this with firewire, but with a Kona card and a Horita timecode transcoder you can send the remote cable to the Horita box along with a video source for sync and have the Kona control panel read the source timecode. The Horita box takes the timecode from the source clip and sends that out a timecode cable. Send that cable to your deck’s TC input and crash record.

    We do this all the time to make masters to our Panasonic 1200a which cannot Edit to tape. Set up the Horita and send the timeocde to the deck along with the video and it writes the timecode from the sequence. Perfect timecode matched dubs every time. I believe you can set the Kona control panel to read the source clip’s timecode and send that out the remote cable to the Horita box.

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media

  • Doug Pagano

    January 16, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    So FCP source monitor out to deck through Kona Card?…Remember I need to combine all the clips on new timeline…or if I ingest via HD SDI with with Rs232 control will I get 1 clip…Didn’t work for me, But maybe I’m missing something. I would love to figure this out, especially knowing I’ve got all the gear to pull it off. Thanks in advance.

  • Matt Brown

    January 13, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    Hey, Rich –

    Which Horita product are you referring to? I’ve used them many times before but not in this capacity. We have a show that’s asking to do the same thing and I’d love to give it a try. Is it just their little PTG device or the older box, a WG-50? any info would help. Thanks!

    – Matt

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