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sound editing
Hello everyone, I’m in post production of my newest project and some audio had to be re-recorded. I was wondering how I could manipulate some of the audio clips to sound more outside than inside where they were recorded, thanks in advance!
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Reverb is the best use for that, I believe there are some in Vegas. I am not sure because I usually use Waves audio plugins (they have some cool verbs like a Lincoln Navigator and such!) But in any case try a small amount of reverb, with a short dealy/reverb time and a small environment…see if that helps!
Scott Francis
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If your original was recorded outdoors and your new audio was recorded indoors, adding reverb, of anykind, will NOT make it sound as if it were recorded outdoors. The is no natural reverb outdoors unless you are shouting in a canyon ie; echo. Standing in an open space (outdoors) there is nothing for your voice to reflect off of. Indoor recordings always have a bit of ambient reverb depending on the size of the room and the reflective surfaces, ie; floors, walls, and windows and what they are made of. Adding reverb will only add to your problems and make the audio sound more like it was recorded indoors. Examples are “large hall”, “stadium” etc. There are no filters to remove reverb. You might try some EQ adjustments such as rolling off some of the very low end, but I doubt that would help. I would suggest you re-record your voice tracks outdoors for a better solution.
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There is nearly ALWAYS a very small amount of reverberation where ever something is recorded, indoor or out. Unless one records in an anechoic chamber that is, so I would use a touch if you recorded something outside that may have been in front of a building, barn , on a porch etc. EQ will also help as well (as Kevin stated)
Where did you record the original? Was it just the camera mic, lav mic, boom mic, camera mic or what? Trying to mimic the same environment using the same equipment if you can. Knowing exactly where is helpful.
Good luckScott Francis
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Very true Scott! It all gets back to the original environment.
What are your thoughts on using a noise gate? Depending on the average level of ambient background sound, he might be able to cut off the echo at the end of each phrase, and if he used a music background, he might be able to “hide” the reverb if it is not too “wet”.
Also, I wish I could afford an anechoic chamber
Cheers
Kevin
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I’m guessing that the problem might be the exact opposite. More than likely, there is already reverb in the form of room echo from being inside. This cannot be removed easily.
The audio should not sound like it is “inside” if it was recorded correctly in a vocal booth. It should just sound dry and dead. Then you can record the ambient sound of “outside” and lay that down as a bed below the dialog replacement audio. This should be pretty convincing.
You could also use Sony Acoustic Mirror which comes with Sound Forge. It has several Impulses for the outdoors including parks, forests, and farms. You can also record your own impulse while on location and use that later to rebuild the original environment.
~jr
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That may work, OR in the past I have used a noise gate as you suggest, and then added back room tone underneath to mask the gate. If he captured room tone (hopefully). Of not, one can capture a second or so of room tone in between speaking and copy and paste it to length. If you do that, you may get a loop type sound and hear each section. What I have done it the past is take two identical tone clips and reversed the second one, that way it matches the end of the clip before it. I then flip-flop these clips to the length I need….
Scott Francis
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Why not go outside, record a few minutes of room tone and add it to your timeline? With that as a bed, it may give you the sound you want.
James
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This is a no budget film, so I used a mic I bought at Walmart and then hooked up to my Canon camcorder. I will definitely take everything said here into consideration, even though one of my actors has moved away, I think I should be able to cover up the fact that it was recorded inside. Thanks for all the helpful advice everyone.
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[Jesse Davenport] “This is a no budget film, so I used a mic I bought at Walmart and then hooked up to my Canon camcorder”
Having no budget shouldn’t stop you from getting a good recording. Do you have any pillows in your house? Stack them to make a three sided box and place the mic and the head of the actor inside. The pillows will deaden the sound of the room and having the actor in close proximity to a $10 mic will sound better than a $1000 mic across the room. Proximity when recording is everything! The closer the mic, the better the sound.
If you have a little money get a collapsible canvas home storage box for $15 and line it with 4 Auralex Studiofoam acoustic wedgies ($5 ea) and you’ve got a portable sound booth for $35 like the one Harlan Hogan shows you how to build on his web site.
This was an original idea by Douglas Spotted Eagle who also has a video on how to build one from foam core board on YouTube.
Building a low-cost voice over box
So there is no excuse not to have good “studio quality” audio. 😉~jr
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Thanks for all the helpful advice everyone.
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