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  • Sound capturing quality (as good as M-Audio sound card?)

    Posted by Kozo Okumura on April 23, 2007 at 6:24 pm

    Hi, I have Decklink Extreme card with G5. I would like to like to digitize my collection of vinyl records. I am wondering if I should buy M Audio products such as MobilePre USB ($180) to capture the sound with good quality. Or Is Decklink Extreme would be as good as those M-Audio product?

    thank you for your advice.

    Luke Maslen replied 19 years ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Steve

    April 23, 2007 at 11:59 pm

    Neither of those would be appropriate to use with a record player. You need a pre-amp that is designed to work with a record player (the pre-amp needs to have RIAA Equalization to account for the way the audio is stored on records). Using anything else would cause the records that you digitize to sound incorrect.

    This would be the right pre-amp to do what you wanted to do (when it is in “phono” mode):
    https://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=91&cat=14&id=110

    more info on RIAA Equalization and pre-amps for vinyl:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization

    https://stereos.about.com/od/gtgtturntables/a/riaa_eq.htm

  • Luke Maslen

    April 24, 2007 at 12:36 am

    Hi,

    Steve’s advice sounds good to me and DeckLink cards wouldn’t be the easiest way to digitize your vinyl records.

    I know that digitizing vinyl records seems like a good idea but, if at all possible, I’d recommend you simply buy them again on CD if someone has already made them available on CD. This is because when you digitize vinyl records, you will also be digitizing every scratch and imperfection and often the result does not sound nearly as nice as you would expect.

    If CD versions do exist, you’ll usually find that someone has done a great job at digitally remastering the audio from original tapes and that they have greatly cleaned up the audio so it sounds wonderful. Only digitize yourself if you find that your records are not available on CD.

    Regards,

    Luke Maslen
    Blackmagic Design

  • Kozo Okumura

    April 24, 2007 at 1:43 am

    thanks your response but unfortunatelly, my question is not answered.

    I am a DJ and have a mixer already, which amplify the signal and output to the speakkers. THis mixer has XLR output, also. So, I am set to digitize the audio. M-Audio device was recommended at DJ store but I realized that I already have black magic card which takes XLR audio. And I am talking about 500 records and many of them are only available in vinyl. anyone can actually answer my question?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 24, 2007 at 3:39 am

    [kutmasta] “anyone can actually answer my question?”

    Do it dude. The mixer will happily convert your phono input to a line output and set your bm card to capture away. You can then use soundtrack pro if there’s some major clicks and pops, or just keep the natural sound. In 10 years there’ll be whole plug in sets written to create the sound of vinyl as it’ll be nostalgic (think of the film burn plug ins for video), you will have that sound already built in.

  • Luke Maslen

    April 24, 2007 at 4:39 am

    Hi,

    The XLR connections on your DeckLink Extreme are for professional balanced audio so make sure the audio format received from the mixer is the same. In the System Preferences>DeckLink set your video input connections to analog. You’re going to need a token video source so set the analog input to composite or component as desired.

    The DeckLink Extreme is an SDI card with analog convertors on it. This means that is expects video with embedded audio. If you don’t have any video, you won’t be able to capture the audio. You could use the composite output of a video camera or DVD player if you like. If you don’t have a source of video, then try connecting the video output of the card to the video input as I believe that should work. Then choose a relevant easy setup in Blackmagic Deck Control or Final Cut Pro. Even though you’re only going to be interested in audio, you will need to select an NTSC or PAL easy setup to match the video format that you are receiving.

    In Final Cut Pro or Deck Control, you can then switch off the option to capture video so you only record audio. This should allow you to digitize your records.

    Regards,

    Luke Maslen
    Blackmagic Design

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