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  • Sony Vegas Rendering Issues in HD

    Posted by Jarrod Walsh on August 9, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    Hey Guys,

    I’ve recently purchased a Panasonic HDC HD Video Camera, and have been recording videos in Full HD since it’s purchase.

    The issue I am having is when it comes to the Rendering Process.

    I am using Sony Vegas 8.0 and am not sure what settings to render my file under.

    I am currently following a guy on youtube and below is an example of a great quality clip he has uploaded:

    https://www.youtube.com/user/TeeFlick#play/uploads/13/JdNKXR9qqE8

    Sorry about the sound 🙂

    So, bascially I am needing your help in rendering a HD clip on Sony Vegas to be sharp and smooth enough to view on Youtube, similar to the above.

    I have tried contacting the guy on Youtube but he’s not responded. He was probably too busy making pancakes.

    Thanks so much in advance for your help, this is driving me insane.

    All I want is to take full advantage of my HD video camera.

    Thanks again

    Odd Magne nilsen replied 16 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    August 9, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    I can’t see the video in your post for some reason. Youtube accepts 720p now so I would render your file using the Sony AVC render type at 720p. You have to make a custom template in Vegas Pro 8.0:

    Render Type:    Sony AVC
    Video Format:   AVC
    Frame size:     (Custom frame size) Width: 1280 Height: 720
    Profile:        Baseline
    Entropy coding: CAVLC
    Frame rate:     29.976 (NTSC)
    Field order:    None (progressive scan)
    Pixel aspect:   1.0000
    Bit rate (bps): 6,000,000

    Audio format:     AAC
    Sample rate (Hz): 48,000
    Bit rate (bps):   128,000

    That should give you a nice looking video for Youtube. You might want to save this with a name like Internet HD 1280×720-30p @ 6,000 Kbps (Youtube). In Vegas Pro 9.0 there is an Internet 16:9 HD 30p setting that is exactly as above provided by Sony and you don’t need to use a custom frame size because 720p is in the drop-down list.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • D. Eric franks

    August 9, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Good one John. Here’s what I typically use, just as another “fer example”:

    Render type: Main Concept AVC
    Frame size: 1280×720
    Profile: Main
    Frame rate: 24
    Field order: None (progressive scan)
    Pixel aspect: 1.0000

    Variable bit rate: Two-pass
    Maximum (bps): 50,000,000
    Average (bps): 30,000,000

    Audio: 48kHz/192Kbps

    Some notes:
    (1) I use Main Concept AVC because the Sony encoder was unreliable on my system (Vista64, Vegas 8 32-bit). When it did work, it was fine (never noticed any quality differences).
    (2) I use 24fps for Vimeo which, the last time I checked, was distributing 24fps. I thought YouTube was too, could be wrong, could have easily changed in the last year. In any case, matching your frame rate to whatever YouTube is spitting out these days is the “right” frame rate to render at.
    (3) 44kHz might make more sense for the audio, since I think that matches the distribution format as well
    (4) Kick the bit rate up as high as you can. My segments are typically 5-10 minutes long, so I can get away with super-overkill-unnecessarily-high bitrates (although there’s some invisible ceiling and you can’t actually get 50Mbps). Longer clips will need lower rates to squeeze in under the upload file size limit.

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    — Edgar Bergen
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  • Jarrod Walsh

    August 9, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Thanks for your help guys.

    While you’re here – I’ll try posting the clip again with the crispness.

    Also, sometimes when my files have been uploaded to Youtube, the audio is out of sync to the video, Youtube suggests I change the audio to a lesser quality format. Any suggestions?

    Here is the link of the clear video,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdNKXR9qqE8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2FTeeFlick&feature=player_profilepage

    And below is the respons the guy finally gave me to what he renders in:

    wmv
    HD 1080-24p (1920×1080, 23.976 fps)222
    59.940 (Double NTSC)
    best resolution

    Thanks again guys.

  • Odd Magne nilsen

    August 12, 2009 at 5:38 am

    Youtube can be 24,25 or 30 fps. 1280 x 720 (max).

    Bitrate from yuotube’s player something like 1.5-2.0 Mbps (HD).

    So there is no need for more than 1-pass 5.0 Mbps rendering quality.

    odd magne nilsen

    newbie

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