Sony Raw 4k to FCP X?

[Jeremy Garchow]

Great.

In Davinci, once you get to the “color” section, click on the button that look like a camera for “camera Raw” (bottom left).

In there, you can apply nearly the same settings. Decode Using > Clip

Jeremy

[Jeremy Garchow]

BTW-

I’m telling you how to do this in DaVinci as you can setup everything in there and render.

[Jeremy Garchow]

I have never worked with the AVCHD proxies and then the Sony RAW.

What you usually do to relink in DaVinci is to add the RAW files to the media pool, import the XML, and then DaVinci will reconnect to the RAW files automatically.

Can you try this?

Just put one clip on a Project, export the XML, add the corresponding one RAW clip to the Media Pool, and then import the XML.

At least, that’s how it works in v9.

Jeremy

[Bret Williams]

I was able to export an xml from X and bring it into resolve. It didn’t relink to anything automagically. When shooting with the FS700 and the extra raw recorder, the files aren’t exactly the same. The HD AVCHD files from the card often have more frames at the head of the clip. So the TC, while perfectly in sync with the raw recorder TC, starts earlier. Each shot is slightly longer. And the file names aren’t even remotely the same.

But what I was able to do, since I was only dealing with a handful of shots, was bring in the XML linked up to the HD versions, and “force conform to selection in bin.” So I had both HD and 4k in the media pool. I’d match frame a shot and get the TC, then find the matching 4k shot, then do a force conform. It would swap the shot and match up the TC. Then I changed the size of the sequence to 4k and exported for FCP X.

It worked! But I had to grade the shots in resolve ever so slightly (adjusting the raw settings didn’t give me any option even close to as good as the one in Sony Raw viewer) to get close to normal non glowing orange and they didn’t want to play as nice with the key after that. Something is definitely odd about the chroma/luma clipping in the raw. When it’s all said and done, and finely tweaked grade in resolve on the raw shots doesn’t look nearly as good (color wise) as the AVCHD after I make a simple black level adjustment. In the RAW I have to bring the chroma down a bit to match, and of course it brings down the green too, which screws with the key.

We should’ve just shot with the native 4k XAVC right in camera. But it sounded good to have both HD and 4k RAW. I think I can make do if I have to pull out a 4k shot for the final product. But have learned a lot for next time that’s for sure.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Bret Williams] “And the file names aren’t even remotely the same.”

Right, but my guess is that there’s be metadata that would help this process, and it should be able to relink through reel/tc alone.

If you’re willing can you do me a large favor?

In the RAW Viewer, you can make a new RAW clip (it’s under the Export options as “Trim”).

Is it possible for you to export a second or so of the RAW?

Or, if you have a very short RAW clip that you are willing to upload, I’d be happy to take a look for you.

The settings in RAW Viewer and Resolve should be fairly similar. The RAW color data is just metadata so you should be able to match the RAW Viewer to Resolve and vice versa.

If you can’t for whatever reason, that’s cool. You can email me offline if you’d like as well.

editstation (at) gmail

[Bret Williams]

That’d be great. Will do. Probably later tonight. The settings are similar, but the Sony Raw viewer has this LC709 color space setting, which is a little different that the settings that seem to be similar in resolve.

[Jeremy Garchow]

That seems to be a “Low Contrast” LUT, hence the LC. Actually, I think those are Sony LUT available for download, and I am sure you can add that LUT to Resolve and get the same results.

Let me try and find them.

Send an email when you have a chance and that way, we can at least look at the same footage.

Jeremy

[Jeremy Garchow]

Here they are. You want the “Resolve Cube” link.

https://community.sony.com/t5/F5-F55/NEW-3D-LUT-s-for-F55-and-F65/m-p/135617#M2872

Jeremy

[John Davidson]

Hey guys, is the F5 raw process any better one year later?

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[John Davidson] “Hey guys, is the F5 raw process any better one year later?”

Better “ha-ha” or better “queer”?

Sony Raw is still not supported in FCPX. You have to either transcode first, or use Resolve as the linking engine.