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  • Sony PMW-EX1 vs Panasonic HVX-200 Shootout footage online

    Posted by Matt Devino on January 4, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Hey Everyone,
    Just wanted to give a heads up that we’ve posted a bunch of footage and stills from a shootout we did over the weekend between these two cameras. It’s not all encompassing or completely scientific, we just put both cameras next to each other and pointed them at the same scene, with out of the box presets on both cameras. I think what we got is pretty interesting, so check it out!

    Here’s the link:

    https://www.pairofhands.net/Ex1%20vs%20HVX%20Shootout.html

    Rafael Amador replied 18 years, 4 months ago 8 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Tom Matthies

    January 4, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    Great timing since I have a demo of the Sony camera scheduled for next week.
    Thanks!
    Tom

  • Paul Escandon

    January 4, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    Man, the sharpness and the resolution of the EX-1 is very impressive on all the screen shots I’ve seen so far. Good job doing this comparison.

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  • Mark Raudonis

    January 4, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    Matt,

    Great comparison. We were going to do this on Monday, but you just saved me hours of work!

    Thanks for posting for all to see.

    By the way, you mention that you’ve formed an opinion… care to share?

    It seems to me that with a little color correction, the quality of the images are very close. Which makes me place a higher consideration on things like the camera ergonomics, post workflow, storage, etc. Your thoughts on that would be appreciated.

    Mark

  • Tom Matthies

    January 4, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Well, in a short and very unscientific look at the stills (while taking a short lunch break from editing and wolfing down a noodle bowl) it would seem that the Sony has the edge in resolution both horizontally and vertically. I can still see details in the wedge charts on the Sony after the Panny tops out. Noise levels at high gain seem to go to the Sony as well. Just viewing the stills at +12db shows a fair amount of noise on the Panny and lesser amounts on the Sony. I don’t have the specs. for the Panny in front of me, but the Sony looks to be a bit more sensitive at zero gain as well.
    The Sony does, however, show the typical “clinical” look for colorimetery…a bit on the neutral/blue side for my tastes. The Panny has a definite warmer overall look. Maybe a bit too much for me, actually. I still shoot every now and then with my old Panasonic WV-565 Betacam SP and it has a very similar look. Very Ikegami-like. Sony’s factory settings always looked a little cold to me. I have setup all of my Sony cameras to give them a little warmer look, mostly by changing the mid gamma settings a bit and tinkering with the detail thresholds/amounts to achieve a little warmer & friendlier look.
    All in all, the Sony looks pretty good and I look forward to putting it through the paces soon while demoing the camera. We will be facing it off directly with an HVX-200 as well. I’ll try to see if I can get similar results to your tests.
    Thanks again and good timing.
    Tom

  • Matt Devino

    January 4, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    Overall I think the EX1 wins. Definitely more light sensitive, looks about 3 stops more sensitive, definitely sharper and picks up more minute details (check out the little gold reindeer on the site), vertical resolution is better, it seems to have a lot less noise – especially when using gain, and I loved the lens on it being fully manual – it felt more like using a film camera. I also like the fact that the codec is actually 1920×1080 instead of 1280×1080, although it is a bit more of a pain to import into Final Cut, and it sucks you can’t use a PPC Mac at all for the sony viewer software.

    I think the HVX probably has slightly better color reproduction (although our white balance seems to be off on the HVX in the tests we did). It may have a more “filmic” look, being softer and more saturated, but that’s up for debate. I’m not hating on the HVX either, it’s been my go to camera for a while and I love it.

    Either way I think both cameras are great, and both will be used for a long time. But if I were to purchase today I would pick the Sony.

  • Matt Devino

    January 4, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Overall I think the EX1 wins. Definitely more light sensitive, looks about 3 stops more sensitive, definitely sharper and picks up more minute details (check out the little gold reindeer on the site), vertical resolution is better, it seems to have a lot less noise – especially when using gain, and I loved the lens on it being fully manual – it felt more like using a film camera. I also like the fact that the codec is actually 1920×1080 instead of 1280×1080, although it is a bit more of a pain to import into Final Cut, and it sucks you can’t use a PPC Mac at all for the sony viewer software.

    I think the HVX probably has slightly better color reproduction (although our white balance seems to be off on the HVX in the tests we did). It may have a more “filmic” look, being softer and more saturated, but that’s up for debate. I’m not hating on the HVX either, it’s been my go to camera for a while and I love it.

    Either way I think both cameras are great, and both will be used for a long time. But if I were to purchase today I would pick the Sony.

  • Matt Devino

    January 4, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Overall I think the EX1 wins. Definitely more light sensitive, looks about 3 stops more sensitive, definitely sharper and picks up more minute details (check out the little gold reindeer on the site), vertical resolution is better, it seems to have a lot less noise – especially when using gain, and I loved the lens on it being fully manual – it felt more like using a film camera. I also like the fact that the codec is actually 1920×1080 instead of 1280×1080, although it is a bit more of a pain to import into Final Cut, and it sucks you can’t use a PPC Mac at all for the sony viewer software.

    I think the HVX probably has slightly better color reproduction (although our white balance seems to be off on the HVX in the tests we did). It may have a more “filmic” look, being softer and more saturated, but that’s up for debate. I’m not hating on the HVX either, it’s been my go to camera for a while and I love it.

    Either way I think both cameras are great, and both will be used for a long time. But if I were to purchase today I would pick the Sony.

  • Matt Devino

    January 4, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    Whoa, didn’t mean to post that 3 times…

  • Steve Connor

    January 4, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    On your test the colour is nicer on the Panny, but you can soon make the EX look as good by grading in post.

  • Rennie Klymyk

    January 5, 2008 at 1:10 am

    Thanks for posting. It does look like the resolution chart is off axis a bit. The Panny has the top right in focus while the Sony has top and maybe bottom left in focus. If the chart was set up with a linear mirror on axis all 4 corners should come into focus together.

    “everything is broken” ……1st. coined by Esther Philips I believe.

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