Sony F3

[Nate Weaver]

If by “raw” you mean the re-wrapped Quicktimes that FCP produces, the answer is yes.

It doesn’t read the MXFs straight off the camera.

Nate Weaver
Director/D.P., Los Angeles
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[Dave Williams]

I am not sure what you mean by re-wrapped quicktimes. Are you saying that you have to go thru FCP to make them work in Resolve?

[Nate Weaver]

Yes, to my knowledge. Not a problem if they cut with FCP.

A pain if they cut with Avid, as I believe Avid uses the MXFs directly while Resolve cannot.

Nate Weaver
Director/D.P., Los Angeles
https://www.nateweaver.net

[Dave Williams]

Ok, still a little confused here. I have researched on the net and cannot find any native files from the sony f3 to play with and I am not even sure what format is considered “raw” out of that camera. If your saying they are MXF files which is what Avid uses then I purchased the Avid disk with the resolve I have and I have rendered out MXF DNX files and then brought them back into resolve and that worked. Would this be the same as the sony f3?

[Margus Voll]

>Avid DNxHD® MXF files are supported if the DaVinci Resolve DNxHD Update is installed. The DaVinci >Resolve DNxHD Update can be purchased from Blackmagic Design resellers.

This is from config manual.

So in theory it should be possible ?

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Margus

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[Dave Williams]

I have the DNXxHD MXF update installed and have rendered out using it and have brought those files back in to check and they work great. The question is are the Sony f3 original files the same? I have yet to get my hands on any camera originals to check??

[Sascha Haber]

That is only one of the million MXF formats out in the wild.
And not a pretty high quality one.
Probably not THE mxf the camera records in.
But, maybe I am wrong and this IS the solution for the whole P2,MXF topic, if so I place my order right here,right now.

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[Dave Williams]

For what its worth I went back and looked at the mxf files I rendered to and under info they are listed as kind: Document and they play fine. I then found a sony p2 file on the net and it would not open in resolve but it was listed as kind: unix executable file. Don’t know if this helps but I think a call to Black Magic is in order here to clarify.

[Dermot Shane]

I’ve done two shows with F3 media..

The F3 records the same media as the existing EX1/3, and they are useable directly in Media Composer with AMA, and then consolidated and transcoded to MXF wrapped DnxHD175x for online and grade.

From FCS we got media managed ProRezHq, but i think the FCS crew had to make proxie Qt’s and then re-conform or something like that.. not sure as i was at the end of the pipeline

The Avid workflow seems vastly more elegant, but both got decent images into my box.. both showed compression artifacts when pushing secondaries hard(ish)

Next time i hope they use an external HD recorder and avoid the compression of the internal recorder.

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[Nate Weaver]

Holy cow, this got way more complicated than it needs to be. I had a longer more detailed response the other day, but a refresh issue in my browser ate the post and I walked away in disgust.

Dave, the camera makes MXF files with variant of MPEG2 as the codec. They are 1920×1080 in resolution.

The method that FCP uses to work with the files is that they are browsed in the Log & Transfer interface, and imported there. Upon import the files are given new Quicktime wrappers as file types. They are still the same codec, and are NOT transcoded in this step. The process goes VERY quickly, as it’s essentially a file copy.

So it is these FCP-ready QTs that Resolve can use. I’ve done it many times, they work great.

If you do NOT have FCP, you can still work with the native media. Here’s how:

1-Go get the latest version of Sony’s XDCAM Transfer software for Mac. This is the software that used to be used to being XDCAM into FCP, before they came up with the plugin. It is a standalone program. Get it here: https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.com/sony-software-model-PDZKP1.aspx

2-Beg or borrow the Apple MPEG2 codec and install it in your Quicktime folder. It is installed with FCP, so if you just move it off a legit FCP machine you haven’t done anything too terrible.

3-Use XDCAM Transfer to load up the original camera media folders “BPAV”, select which clips you need (or all of them), and hit import. It will create new QT media in the folder you specify in the prefs.

Nate Weaver
Director/D.P., Los Angeles
https://www.nateweaver.net