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Something else to debate!
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[Herb Sevush] “I wasn’t focusing on Photoshop as a CG program as much as in it’s ability to alter static images in ways that I can’t within an NLE.”
I find PS indispensable. I use it with my editing on a near-daily basis. However, without it, I’d use Affinity or Pixelmator, because one of these tools is essential. And if tons of photos are involved, so are Lightroom or Aperture (not Photos).
– Oliver
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Oh heck, I do that stuff all the time.
I just clone the shot, crop it to a neutral area or similar part of the existing frame and and slide that over the unwanted content as a quick mask.Because everything in X is just a reference to the core footage, that type of layering is no big deal.
I find no need to go out to a program built to work with a higher resolution raster – when all I need to do is repair the one I’m working with. I find it easier to clone “like onto like.”
Quick, simple and effective.
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[Bill Davis] “Because everything in X is just a reference to the core footage, that type of layering is no big deal. “
Are there any NLEs that aren’t non-destructive?
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[Bill Davis] “Because everything in X is just a reference to the core footage, that type of layering is no big deal. “
As it is in every other NLE ☺
I also do this in FCPX as well but sometimes it’s not enough and It’s the power of clone and replacement in PS that Herb is talking about which far surpasses any NLE
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Andrew has this right.
It’s a variation on my old … “when the tool you have is a hammer – your problems start to look like nails” thing.
Perfectly reasonable to reach for the tool you know how to best use whatever it is.
For me I’m still trying to ween completely away from the fishhook subscription thing, so I’m trying to move to lighter and less costly tools. Affinity and Pixelmator among them. (If only I could find more time to play with new stuff. Oh well.)
That said, I’ve maybe used Photoshop 3 times in the past year. I tend to use get multilayer files from the designer as PDFs and my first stop is to use Automator to deconstruct the packages and just bring the layers into X for re-assembly. I actually tend to use Graphics Converter more for resizing and repair and cleanup these days than Photoshop.
In the end, we all have our own mix of what’s comfortable.
Viva difference!
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] “I just clone the shot, crop it to a neutral area or similar part of the existing frame and and slide that over the unwanted content as a quick mask.”
Well yes, that’s the way to do it for the easy fixes, but often I get something for which there is no adequate pre-existing video to use. An offending bottle is on a crowded counter-top next to a window looking out on a street – there is no way to match the angle of the backgrounds and the content of the window with anything else in your shot – your have to “create” the background, there is nothing to steal. Or you need to create a new “faux” label to replace a trademarked one, faux logo and all. Photoshop, or any of it’s equivalents, will run rings around anything you can do strictly within any NLE. I’d rather stay within a given Ap, but a hammer is not the answer for all problems, sometimes you need a drill.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Yeah, well X has drills too.
So what?
I can do that bottle and label probably just as easily a Graphics Converter as Photoshop and toss it in Track X to integrate it into the scene directly in X too.
This is stupid.
First you accuse me of “selective quoting” when I did no such thing, and now you want to imply what I somehow can’t do in X things I do perfectly well all the time.
I’ve got work to do.
I posted this not to piss you off, Herb, but because I felt it was RELEVENT to this group.
Sometimes I wonder why I even bother anymore.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] “I can do that bottle and label probably just as easily a Graphics Converter as Photoshop and toss it in Track X to integrate it into the scene directly in X too.”
I’m sure you can and I’m sure you do — that’s my point. You leave your base NLE to use specific tools (it doesn’t matter who makes them) that are beyond any NLE’s capability.
This sub thread started with your claim —
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/92982
[Bill Davis] ”
Part of the beauty if X (for me at least) is that I can stay inside it and get essentially everything I need to deliver my work done in one cohesive place.”Which I found surprising. Apparently you do what everyone does – you use the tools you need where ever you find them.
As for —
[Bill Davis] “First you accuse me of “selective quoting” when I did no such thing”
I was not the one who made you look bad, Mads was, when he gave you half the quote he gave to another interviewer. I apologize for my misreading of the situation.
And finally —
[Bill Davis] “Sometimes I wonder why I even bother anymore.”
The jury is out on that one, although I would miss you if you weren’t here to badger.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Bill Davis] “Sometimes I wonder why I even bother anymore.”
It’s “hitting on the head lessons” in here ☺
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Herb Sevush] “I was not the one who made you look bad, Mads was, when he gave you half the quote he gave to another interviewer. I apologize for my misreading of the situation.”
Uh, NOPE.
Mads did NOTHING but post his delight in the new performance of X.
I quoted him accurately.
That you jumped to an erroneous conclusion based on something he revised and posted elsewhere isn’t on him or on me.
Period.
That said, I can see why you mistook what he wrote elsewhere that included his original text sent to me essentially verbatim as the thing I was quoting. Perhaps a fine lesson in the dangers of today’s READY-FIRE-AIM discourse?
Apology accepted.
Let’s move on.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.
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