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  • Some speed effect weirdnesses

    Posted by Vladimir Kucherov on January 17, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    I wanted to note some of my problems conforming over speed effects from final cut edls. I wonder if these are bugs that could be fixed or am I just doing something wrong?

    First one was a reversed and slowed down shot that immediately appeared in my EDL timeline with Blue Xs. The weird thing is, about half the time I open up Resolve the shot is actually there. I can grade it and even modify its RED settings. Then the rest of the time it’s offline. There’s no pattern to it or anything.

    The other one was a more devious one. A reversed shot in the FCP timeline ended up in my Resolve timeline with the exact same start frame, but went forward from that frame instead of backward. What’s annoying about it, is I couldn’t catch it while doing a shot by shot spot check against the offline because the starting frame was identical! Good thing the director had a sharp eye.

    Both instances dealt with reversed shots. I know I used to have a fun time with these in Color days too.

    Vladimir Kucherov replied 15 years, 3 months ago 7 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Mikhail Puzyrev

    January 17, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    I also had problems with just simple sped up from 25 fps to 100 fps shot. It appears at davinci as 25 fps shot – it didn’t read edl speed information.

  • Margus Voll

    January 18, 2011 at 6:56 am

    I usually use special apps for that and send pre rendered stuff to resolve.
    Resolve is not planned to make speed changes like this or do i get it wrong ?

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  • Rohit Gupta

    January 18, 2011 at 7:58 am

    Speed change, including negative speed changes should work just fine. If you have an EDL which does not work correctly, please send it to our support at davincihelp (at) blackmagic-design, and we’ll investigate it.

    Please let us know which event/timecode range is not working correctly. If you can narrow it down to a few events, that would be ideal 🙂

    Thanks!

  • Sascha Haber

    January 18, 2011 at 7:58 am

    ssssmoooooooke….twiiiixxxtooorrr…speeeeedooooo 😉

    Or in other words, please give us OFX plugins for Resolve 8.0 🙂

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  • Darin Wooldridge

    January 18, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    I was able to do all the speed changes during a red feature i conformed and graded a few months ago.
    On a couple shots my client complained of steppy artifacts during speed changes done by the resolve. He opted to do them out of the program as vfx.

    NOTE: The comments above are strictly mine, and may not necessarily
    represent those of my employers.

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  • Joseph Mastantuono

    January 19, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Interesting,

    I had serious issues trying to bring in a Music Video’s EDL with speed effects, but that had ramps and a speed effect on almost every shot. So I just used the EDL as a cut list, but had to be insanely careful & do some rebuilding afterwards in FCP as there were wipes that the Resolve wasn’t going to recreate. But then I’ve never been able to get good results getting anything with a speed effect out through an EDL.

    I actually like the color workflow for this even if it’s a bit clunky where if simply renders the entire shot, to be reconnected in FCP (through XML).

    I haven’t dived into it extensively, but I know the reconnect workflow can work in Resolve too, It’s just that I hadn’t figured out how to make the EDL with the wonky speed effects act appropriately without severely going in and altering the timeline.

    Darin on that red feature did you use a reconnect workflow or did you export your master directly from Resolve?

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  • Vladimir Kucherov

    January 19, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    If you want to try a reconnect workflow with original clips instead, I would do this:

    Export your EDL normally
    Import clips into media pool based on EDL
    Load the EDL and grade normally, ignoring that speed effects may be not correct.
    For output, switch back to the master session. The master session will only have the full takes of whatever’s in your timeline. Render this in source mode keeping original filenames.

    You should be able to reconnect the rendered footage in place of your master clips in FCP, and hopefully get all your ramps too. The only downside is you’re rendering full takes which depending on the show may be a while.

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