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  • solid state drive – theoretical question

    Posted by Adam Taylor on June 16, 2010 at 9:35 am

    I think i asked something like this a while back, but no-one replied…and now my thoughts have evolved slightly.

    I’m about to get a new Macbook Pro and i’m trying to decide if its worth the extra to install the solid state drive option.

    I know its not recommended to use the system drive for holding media during an edit, but is this simply because the HDD would have to work too hard and fast?

    If these new SDD’s are a fast as the hype says they are, then isn’t it feasible that editing (at least up to Prores422) from the same drive would be doable?

    i’d love to hear the thoughts of the knowledge brethren of the cow!

    adam

    Adam Taylor
    Video Editor/Audio Mixer/ Compositor/Motion GFX/Barista
    Character Options Ltd
    Oldham, UK

    http://www.sculptedbliss.co.uk

    Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    June 16, 2010 at 10:44 am

    Adam,
    In the end is all a matter of accessing the information fast enough.

    A hard drive fast enough, would overcome the problems of having System and media together.
    What I don’t know is if those new SSHDs at the present are up to the task of editing Prores.
    I guess that if this would be feasible now, the manufactures would be publicizing this like an achievement.
    Anyway, I think that the SSHDs is the trend and if that is not yet possible, soon will be.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Adam Taylor

    June 16, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Thats what i thought, Rafael.

    what really got me thinking was seeing some test results online recently that compared the various drives in the macbookpro’s.
    Reading that from pressing the power button to being fully operational, boot up took around 4seconds using an SSD. Thats when i thought, maybe now is the time to be able to start cutting on the laptop.

    Having said that – i cannot remember where i saw the comparison, so it could be complete nonsense!

    so – the dilemma is do i ask the boss for an ssd or stick to hdd?

    Adam Taylor
    Video Editor/Audio Mixer/ Compositor/Motion GFX/Barista
    Character Options Ltd
    Oldham, UK

    http://www.sculptedbliss.co.uk

  • Bouke Vahl

    June 16, 2010 at 11:39 am

    I’ve seen SSD in action on one computer, and it’s blazing fast…
    My main concern would be the lifespan of the drive.
    Solid state has a limited amount of read/write operations.
    So in all cases i would make a backup of the project files on another disk / stick.
    (and there is the cost, but that is math you have to do yourself)

    Bouke

    https://www.videotoolshed.com/
    smart tools for video pros

  • Jean-christophe Boulay

    June 16, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    It’s still a bad idea to use SSD’s as media drives in Mac OS. Apple still hasn’t seen fit to include true TRIM support in the OS, so you’ll be hitting the block-rewrite limit hard and fast. SSD’s make great system drives, but until TRIM is fully-implemented, it is a really bad idea to edit on SSD, as you’ll be writing and erasing a lot. It’ll work wonders until you hit the block-rewrite limit, and then watch it sllllllloooooooowwwwww dooooooowwwwwwnnnnn.

    SSD’s do not necessarily have a shorter lifespan than spinning drives, the block-rewrite limit is the main factor. Remember that most benchmarks you see will be on new drives on a PC. Your mileage will vary.

    JC Boulay
    Technical Director
    Audio Z
    Montreal, Canada
    http://www.audioz.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 16, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    https://www.barefeats.com is a good resource just for this kind of thing. They are even doing test on HDD vs SSD raids.

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