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Soccer. ..F*** No. Why not many in N.A. give much of a sh**
David Cherniack replied 11 years, 10 months ago 28 Members · 61 Replies
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John Christie
June 13, 2014 at 2:48 pm[Bret Williams] “Have you tried trashing your preferences?”
Brilliant, drop the mike, leave the stage.
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Bobby Mosca
June 13, 2014 at 3:11 pmActually, I have different theories than has be posited thus far:
1) The US doesn’t compete well at the international level, so the interest in the sport domestically suffers. Nothing kills turnout like a losing team, and that’s what we have. (The reason for this, of course, is Title IX. While it has led to the success of the women’s soccer on the world stage, its implementation in colleges have limited the number of varsity-level clubs, thus choking off the men’s sport.)
3) Flopping. <—- This is the main reason, I think. And it isn’t flopping, because that happens everywhere. You throw your hands up, fall down, and hope to draw the call. That’s part of a lot of sports. But in soccer, they don’t flop: They fake career ending injuries, then get up and sprint for the next hour. And it happens CONSTANTLY, making it impossible to watch. In a football game, a player goes down and the stadium goes silent. It’s a big deal. And if a player did what these soccer players do over, and over, and over, and over again, he would get booed to no end and pelted with whatever the fans have on hand.
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David Mathis
June 13, 2014 at 5:15 pmJust saw this on Jimmy Kimmel last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igVkC2z2xJU
Soccer is boring to me. Golf can be interesting. As for tennis, what is the point of hitting an innocent, little yellow fuzzy ball, with a racket, back and forth over a net?
Jimmy packed a few good jokes in there.
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Steve Connor
June 13, 2014 at 6:03 pmI love to read Americans debating about football, for us its about the game and not high scores, don’t compare it to your football, you need to compare it to baseball, that’s a slow sport. steeped in history as well.
Steve Connor
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Douglas K. dempsey
June 13, 2014 at 6:23 pmGo Giants! Two stunning Super Bowl wins over the Patriots. Was Manning “down” before the miraculous Escape and the subsequent Helmet Catch to crush the Perfect Season dreams of the Patriots? We in New York say Hell No!
Now, to keep it all relevant… does NFL films use FCPX for any of their pop-culture productions? The quick tailgate party sequences shot in the parking lot, cut and uploaded as part of their avalanche of imagery and filler outside of actual on-the-field coverage?
Doug D
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Don Scioli
June 13, 2014 at 8:31 pmAs ESPN USED to say, “No one in America over the ninth grade cares about soccer.”
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Bernard Newnham
June 13, 2014 at 8:56 pmDespite being a British sport hater, I do understand the rules of football – the worldwide version not the American – but having tried a few times, I just can’t work out the American one. There seems to be an awful lot of standing around.
Here’s a famous explanation of how cricket is played. Perhaps an American on here can do the same for “football”, or carry ball, as far as I can tell.
Cricket: As explained to a foreigner…
You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that’s in the side that’s in goes out, and when he’s out he comes in and the next man goes in until he’s out. When they are all out, the side that’s out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.
When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game!Bernie
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Fabrizio D’agnano
June 13, 2014 at 10:14 pmWhat in N.A. is called “soccer” is a complex thing, that involves more than sport itself. You can’t really look at it like you do at what you call “football”, nor like entertainment. I think our football is a representation of what the world really is, while American Football is what we would like it to be. If you read the Odyssey you can see that the concept of valor is “aretè”. The hero tries to achieve victory by any means, using lies, fraud, and whatever. No Knights, no stainless honor. The hero cheats and fights his way to success, no matter how he gets it. Ulysses does not fight Polyphemus in a loyal fight like a knife with his lance against a dragon. He cheats. Like he does with his wife, spending years in a way back home that could have taken much less if he had not stopped to lay with a nymph, a queen, a banshee….. The Olympus is filled with gods that can be jealous, build trouble for somebody they don’t like, in perpetual jealousy with each other. And so is soccer. Powerful gods will help some teams and try to drown others. But David can beat Golia any time, due to the low score, while Serena Williams will beat n° 100 of the ranking 98% of the times. A referee can accord a penalty that can maybe decide the match because somebody with enough influence wants it to be that way. But a team that has shown to be much weaker can still win the game if they’re lucky enough. In Italy, soccer is very important. I keep for a team that is on the wrong side, and gets defrauded by the system every year. Still, I like it, even if I get angry most of the times, just like the keepers of Croatia did yesterday because Brazil could not really loose the first match as they’re the home team and social problems are occurring. In Europe, the top three or four teams of each National League win a money prize that will help them to enlarge the gap with the others. So they can buy more players, even just to keep them from playing with another team. The strong one gets stronger, and tries to make the weak weaker. I know American Football is much different, but maybe real life is not.
By the way, what was written in a previous post about offside is totally wrong. You can’t pass the ball to a player of your team that is the nearest to the opponent team goal keeper, but you don’t have to wait for anybody if you are just faster than the defenders and you go alone towards the goal.Fabrizio D’Agnano
Rome, Italy
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Dave Gage
June 13, 2014 at 10:18 pm[Lance Bachelder] “I think for American’s, we’re used to seeing breakout plays where such as interceptions run back for touchdowns, stolen balls leading to slam dunks etc. None of this exists in soccer due to the ancient offside rule.”
Amen. Fast breaks are exciting. Even cherry picking makes a game more fun with increased scoring.
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Tom Sefton
June 13, 2014 at 10:18 pmGreat game tonight with Spain v Holland though. 6 goals.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, for any Americans who just can’t stand football, try watching Rugby League. Faster, exciting, insanely tough, brutal and full of enormous athletes who run into each other at sprinting speed for 80 minutes.
There is also Rugby Union – England v New Zealand tomorrow which should be a belter.
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