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So long, and thanks for all the fish
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Edius doesn’t get mentioned very much around here, I’d be interested to hear more about it
Steve Connor
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Download the demo and try it Steve. It may not be quite as feature rich as FCP7 (I’ll stay out of the FCPX debate) but it’s fast and I mean fast, and rock solid stable on the PC. By the way did I say it was fast?
There’s no Edius Forum on the cow but a really excellent one supported and inhabited by GV staff as well as really helpful members at https://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/
If I’ve got time to invest then I’ll play with FCP, PremCS5.5 and will even try FCPX eventually, but for a job to be done quickly & well Edius is now my first choice.
I was a committed Liquid Silver user until Avid pulled the plug and have never supported Avid
Cheers Alan
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[Alan Lacey] “There’s no Edius Forum on the cow”
Maybe that’s why it doesn’t get much traffic… https://forums.creativecow.net/edius
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
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Actually not quite true, there is an Edius forum here on the cow
https://forums.creativecow.net/edius
However, it’s not the most frequented forum around here. The forum at Grass Valley itself is very informative.About Edius itself, I had the chance of playing around with it at a friends who swears by it and I was extremely impressed. I love the UI and the concept. Coming from FCP, I felt instantly 100 per cent at home and I mean no issues at all.
It is indeed freakin’ fast, extremely stable and its realtime capabilities are brutal. I did some PIP tests with AVCHD to test something that taxes the machine and I stopped at 10 streams, no dropped frames, and it doesn’t even use CUDA.
It brings its own intermediate codec, Canopus HQX. It uses the avi wrapper, not Quicktime based, redering into it is the fastest codec I have seen anywhere. It smokes DnxHD, Prores and Cineform in terms of performance bigtime. I can’t remember how fast it was but it was about 3-4x times faster than exporting to a DnxHD QT.
I might do some speed comparisons and RT tests with some of the big NLEs when I have the time one day. I wouldn’t be surprised if Edius beats them all to be honest. -
I love where you wrote: “Personally, I tried FCPX, as I’ve tried lots of other systems. Walter Murch said, I think, something along the lines of “Apple are looking further into the future than me”. Apple are looking at a future that doesn’t include lots of professionals, probably not Walter Murch, maybe not the BBC, and certainly not me.”
I guess even the best in the world just aren’t advanced enough to appreciate X. At least we’re in good company Bernie.
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.comDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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Wow, I’ve never seen that! Thanks
Alan
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This guy is an Ex BBC staffer as I understand it.
It may interest him – and you to know – that someone (according to some blog post I read) high up in BBC Studios and Post P is heavily involved with helping improve Apple FCP X, they are really excited by it. I have no proof of this other than what I read somewhere.. I’ll try and remember where.
I do know BBC scotland are playing with it.
Michael Sanders
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[Michael Sanders] “It may interest him – and you to know – that someone (according to some blog post I read) high up in BBC Studios and Post P is heavily involved with helping improve Apple FCP X, they are really excited by it. I have no proof of this other than what I read somewhere.. I’ll try and remember where.
I do know BBC scotland are playing with it.”
BBC is a massive company, Im sure somebody somewhere is involved with Apple !
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[Michael Sanders] “Someone (according to some blog post I read) high up in BBC Studios and Post P is heavily involved with helping improve Apple FCP X, they are really excited by it.”
Michael,
The fact that some unnamed blog mentions some unnamed person high up in the BBC who is reportedly excited by FCPX and is involved in helping to improve it is not exactly newsworthy, nor will it impress any “real” editors among us. When the BBC goes on the record that they are adopting FCPX maybe we’ll want to listen.
The fact that FCPX needs so much improvement in order for most editors to even consider using it is perhaps the more important message.
[Michael Sanders] “This guy is an Ex BBC staffer as I understand it.”
It would seem this statement is designed to imply that Bernard’s point of view, which clearly differs from your own, is rendered invalid, simply because he’s no longer an active employee with the BBC.
Personally, I would suggest to you that Bernard is in fact “a graduate” of the BBC, with years of service, experience, and expertise that go well beyond most of the active employees currently on staff there. In fact, this makes Bernard’s POV far more valuable in my estimation than your very excited mystery BBC staffer, especially since my own experience and that of the vast majority of respected editors I know agree with him, not with you or your mystery BBC staff member.
Does this make sense?
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.comDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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I saw the promotions recently and had a look at the software features online. I searched for a reference to using external cards like Kona for broadcast accurate monitoring and saw nothing so lost interest in Edius. Also I need a tool that can import formats like XML and AAF plus round tripping to a grading program (da Vinci is now taking over from Color for me).
Does anyone know if it supports export and import of any standards and if it has proper output via a Kona?
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