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  • Smooth still image sequence

    Posted by Hans-joachim Schuetze on May 13, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Good day, first time poster here…video amateur with a neat construction site just a half block away, a point-and-shoot camera on a cheap tripod, and Sony Vegas Pro 8.0c. I dabble with time lapse photography, and learn what not to do.

    I understand how to import a still image sequence as project media into Vegas.

    How do “smoothen” the image sequence?
    Due to the cheapo set-up, the still image sequence is rather jumpy.

    So far I have looked for a switch related to the still image sequence media that would do something to that effect, but have not found anything.

    Alternatively, I have tried importing the pictures individually, cut each picture’s length to 3 frames, and crossfade 1 frame to the preceding and 1 frame to the following picture. Using Excel to do a bit of arithmetic here, e.g. to set the new starting points after resizing. (Have not tried grouping the pictures and then doing stuff.) Using this approach, however, Vegas simple cuts from picture to picture, no crossfade – to get that, I’d have to touch each and every one of my 2,800+ pics and move them 0 frames to get the crossfade.

    I have seen discussions around deflicker filters, but those seem to address a different problem (flicker due to exposure or white balance variance across pictures).

    Any thoughts highly appreciated!

    Video editing amateur
    https://vimeo.com/hajooo

    Jake Theriault replied 16 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 23 Replies
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  • Mike Kujbida

    May 13, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Since the still image sequence doesn’t work for you, here’s a way to get a 3-frame image with a 1-frame dissolve to the next one for all of them.

    Options – Prefs – Editing.
    Set the New still image length (seconds): option to 0.125 (3 frames).
    Make sure Automatically overlap multiple selected media when added is checked.
    Set the Cut to overlap conversion – Amount (seconds): to 0.050 (1 frame).
    As long as all the images are properly sequentially numbered, load them into your Media pool, select all of them, drag them to the timeline and you’re done 🙂

    If you find that you’d like to alter things a bit, click the first image, shift-click the last image and press ‘G’ to Group them.
    Place the cursor at the end of the last frame and hold down the Ctrl button.
    You should see the cursor change from a plain rectangle to a rectangle with a ~ under it.
    Hold down the Ctrl button and drag it to the right (increase the time) or left (decrease the time) as desired.

    Good luck with your project!!

  • Hans-joachim Schuetze

    May 13, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Mike, thank you very much indeed for the fast and on-the-spot response. I adjusted the numbers you used as an example as I edit in NTSC format for now, but this did the trick.

    However, I am now challenged using the Pan & Crop functionality – it seems that this feature can be applied to an event (in this case, a single picture), not a group of events.

    Any way to copy and paste Pan & Crop settings across events?

    Thanks again!

    Video editing amateur
    https://vimeo.com/hajooo

  • Mike Kujbida

    May 13, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Hans-Joachim, I’m glad that techniques worked for you.

    Any way to copy and paste Pan & Crop settings across events?

    There sure is 🙂
    Make the appropriate Pan/Crop changes to your first image, exit it and copy this image, either by Ctrl+C or a right-click + copy.
    Click the next image in the sequence to highlight it.
    Go to the last image that you want to have modified and Shift+click it to select all of them.
    Right-click anywhere on the timeline and select Paste Event Attributes.
    All the images will now have all the attributes that the first one does.
    Be advised that, if you had any FX on the first image (colour correction, etc.), these attributes would be copied as well.

    Have fun!!

  • Hans-joachim Schuetze

    May 13, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Mike, thank you once again.

    I managed to import, crop, render and upload a little test sequence, comparing this approach against Vegas’ default “still image sequence”. Here’s what I got – https://vimeo.com/4632136

    Bottom line, I am not too excited about the results and will probably put this approach (not the project) on hold until I have yet another cunning idea.

    Very best regards,
    Hajo

    Video editing amateur
    https://vimeo.com/hajooo

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  • Mike Kujbida

    May 13, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Hajo, first of all, it wasn’t necessary but thanks for the credit on the Vimeo clip.
    I watched it (and liked it too) and my thought was that it might look better if the duration was 4 or 5 frames instead of 3.
    If you had more images to work with, you could probably get away with 2 or 3 frames per image but, in this case, I think a longer duration would work better.
    As you said though, it was an experiment and I’m sure you learned a few things from it.

  • Allen Zagel

    May 14, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Also I belive if you right-click on each photo, you’ll see “switches”. Click on that and check the “reduce interlace flicker”. That should smooth them all out.

    Allen

    ASX Media Group, Inc.
    http://www.asxvideo.com
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  • Hans-joachim Schuetze

    May 15, 2009 at 6:36 am

    Mike,
    happy to give credit where credit is due. Let me know if you prefer not to be associated with this bit 😉

    I have rendered another sequence with 5 frames per picture / 2 frames overlap, and it (obviously) has the effect of reducing the speed of the clip. I realized that this does not match quite as neatly with the music I have in mind, which is faster/noisier/… than the Bach piece used for the test. It’s great for me to have the option to change speeds. (I do have a lot more pictures – probably have crossed the 3,000 mark a couple of days ago.)

    Allen,
    thank you for your post – it addresses a problem I was in the process of realizing I had, and would have had no idea how to go about. Using the switch goes a long way of making the sequence feel a bit calmer, at least helps avoiding introducing post production mess to the messy raw materials. Using this as default setting from now on, very much appreciated.

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    Hajo Schuetze
    Video editing amateur
    https://vimeo.com/hajooo

  • Jake Theriault

    June 2, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Hi. I am an amateur stop motion movie maker seeking help with one problem in the program Sony Vegas Pro 8.0. I read your post “Smooth still image sequence” via a google link, in which I found this great site. It was very helpful, but one problem still remains. I would appreciate it if you would help me out on figuring the numbers I need to change in options>prefs>editing tab. I need those numbers to make the still image sequence look like or be exactly 8 frames per second without any “dissolving” (I do not know what this is, fyi, sorry).

    What I am after is just a smooth still image sequence at precisely 8 frames per second. Thanks in advance!

    Jake T

  • John Rofrano

    June 2, 2009 at 12:57 am

    You should fix this when you import the image sequence. There is a dialog right after you select the images that asks you what the frames per second is. That’s where you need to tell it that the sequence represents 8 fps. If you set your project to 8 fps then there should be no dissolving. If your project is set to something else, then you need to right-click on the clip’s event on the timeline and select Disable Resample. It’s the resampling that is causing the dissolve look.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Jake Theriault

    June 3, 2009 at 3:52 am

    Hi, and thanks for responding to my post.

    I tried the first steps, but, there was no dialog box after i selected the images that asks me what the fps is. If you could clear that part up for me I would appreciate it. Thanks so much!

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